Superstition Mountain Cattlemen

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Aurum
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Superstition Mountain Cattlemen

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Wow!!
Thank you for sharing!
Just goes to show what a colourful background it all has - I guess I have been too blinded by the 'yellow fever' to ever check out all the other history.
Again - Thank You!!

Loke
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CORRUMBA!!!!!!!!! AURUM. Bill :D :D :D
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For the beer drinkers out there, here's a little more color:

Abe Peeples was the owner of the Magnolia Brewery and Saloon at Wickenburg, and the first producer of beer in that area. Peeples later purchased three lots on East Washington Street and, according to Cavaness, Peeples and an unnamed partner "put up a big brewery and saloon". His "partner had trouble and kill a man so he just got up and left the country". Peeples then sold the whole thing to Matt Cavaness for two thousand dollars. Matt took a partner named Frank Cosgrove, who was a
"good blacksmith". Cosgrove ran "a wagon and blacksmith shop behind their saloon", and the two of them "engaged in a host of other activities".
Matt and Frank Cosgrove's operation was considered "more fashionable" than the other saloons that were in Phoenix at that time.
The history of Matt Cavaness contains some of the most colorful and interesting stories to be found "lightly" attached to the legend of the LDM.

My sources are the "Memoirs of Matt Cavaness" and, (don't laugh) a book by Stanley Baron called, "Brewed in America: A History of Beer and Ale in the United States".

I am indebted to "others" for both of those sources.

Respectfully,

Joe Ribaudo
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Matt Cavaness and Abraham H. Peeples

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This was and is a great thread on the history of cattlemen and cattle operations in the Superstition-Tonto country. I am interested in Charlebois and John LaBarge. The little I have on them is that they were either early cattlemen or cowboys. If cowboys for whom did they work? La Barge is supposed to have known and maybe even partnered with Waltz. According to Barnes / Granger LaBarge was born in Canada in 1856 and naturalized in 1876 at Springfield, Massachusetts. By 1890 he was a living in Pinal County and he was a prospector. I also wonder just how much of the western Superstitions Marlow’s cattle roamed over? That is, just how far into the mountains did his operations extend?

I believe that when George Marlow died in 1890 Bark and Criswell purchased his ranch out of his estate, and when the ranch was sold by Bark, Bark sold his share to Criswell who then sold it to Barkley?
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Aurum,

Nice post.

I was going to make a comment on those two, when I got home tonight.
You beat me to the punch, but I was only going to make a guess. As usual, you brought the facts.

I hope all is well with you and your family.

Respectfully,

Joe
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Aurum,

I fear you misunderstood my remark. Although I was going to make a comment, it would have contained little of substance. Some will say that is, in my case, par for the course. :)

I was going to say that I doubted either man was of much consequence concerning the cattle business in Arizona. I don't remember reading of either of them in any of the (mainstream) historical books I have read. That does not mean they were not cattlemen, just that I may not have read enough books dealing with the history of Arizona, yet. :)

Your own post was the most I have ever seen on those two. As usual, we are all amazed at the knowledge of Arizona history that resides in the massive storehouse called, Aurum.

You sir, are as good as it gets.

Thank you, again.

Respectfully,

Joe
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