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Scott,Scott wrote:Hello folks,
I am looking for information about the "Black Legion". The Dutch hunter John Mc Laughlin explained to me the reasons and times ,I should not be in the hills. His advice was that Valentines day until the end of March , is a no go time. We always followed this rule.
I am looking for any information as to the reasons behind this "rule" that we follow ,
Respectfully ,Scott
Don,don wrote:Does anybody know the truth about the jesuit cross found in the bat cave? genuine find or a tv prop?...suspecting none of the filming was done in the actual interior of the mtns,but the outskirts instead.Alsosuspect the forest service dictated where the filming was allowed to take place...true/false?
Don,don wrote:Joe,
Thanks for your reply.I enjoyed the series ,even If I didnt believe 90% of what was portrayed.I think they might have been better advised to have focused on some of the mysteries Adolph ruth,cravey etc ..in fact I thought at some time during the series they would have. Ive long ago lost any belief in the existence of a mine,but for me anyway,Adolph ruths story is the issue that intrigues me most. Though my take on that seems to be the minority view to put it mildly.
Anyhow I, for one hope the site comes back to life...and maybe it will.
kind regards
I'm straying off topic, but what you said piqued my interest. I've heard three stories on Ruth, two of which I think are bunk. One is that Barkley Sr. moved his body from its original location, similar to the Gassler account, and the other was similar to the Crooked Mtn. story but without naming Reid and Rose as conspirators. I just chalked it up as "cowboy gossip" making its way into print. I also thought it strange to come in at First Water, why go all the way over there? Who knows.I also believe he was killed above West Boulder Canyon close to Boulder Basin. That's a location that he could easily reach on foot and with the limited water he carried with him. The story that we have all been fed was to lead subsequent searchers away from what he was looking for
Good morning Jim,Potbelly Jim wrote:Hi Joe,
I'm straying off topic, but what you said piqued my interest. I've heard three stories on Ruth, two of which I think are bunk. One is that Barkley Sr. moved his body from its original location, similar to the Gassler account, and the other was similar to the Crooked Mtn. story but without naming Reid and Rose as conspirators. I just chalked it up as "cowboy gossip" making its way into print. I also thought it strange to come in at First Water, why go all the way over there? Who knows.I also believe he was killed above West Boulder Canyon close to Boulder Basin. That's a location that he could easily reach on foot and with the limited water he carried with him. The story that we have all been fed was to lead subsequent searchers away from what he was looking for
Anyway, the one story I heard that sort of made sense was that Ruth came across the wrong person at the wrong time and just got shot, and his body was packed off a few miles to get rid of it.
Re: your post, do you think the entire story is false (i.e. Sheriff and Barkley falsified body location)? Regards, Jim
Don, I have to say that makes the most sense of all the critter scenarios I've heard. Joe posted some pictures a long while back, some I'd never seen before. I never realized just how big that exit hole was (if it's a gunshot wound). I always thought the famous picture with Brownie holding Ruth's skull was showing the exit wound, it's not. That's the entrance wound. The exit wound is huge, and which is why I think a shotgun was put forward as a possible weapon.Skulls are often carried away by vultures and dropped onto rocks to break them apart or at least create holes so the vulture can get to what is left inside. One missing person northwest of Four Peaks was found with out his skull and the skull was found years later about 20 miles away resting in the arm of a Saguaro Cactus.
Oro,The Phoenix city police were fairly certain that one of the men had murdered Ruth. The blood on the notebook is one clue. The one drifter that returned, brought a girlfriend with him, and she became frightened of him and talked to the police. She told them that he had bragged about killing Ruth and how he had Ruth's map, and would soon be rich.