Good News From Iraq!
Good News From Iraq!
Take a look at the list of stories covered today in Iraq, and compare them to past postings. Sad that the good news in Iraq is widely ignored by the MSM today.
Click on the link at the bottom, and then select any story.
Leaders Discuss Stability, Growth
Recycling Turns Trash to Treasure
Senate Confirms Petraeus for CENTCOM, Odierno to Command MNF-I
Shi’a Pilgrims Make Safe Journey From Najaf to Samarra and Back
Iraqi Air Force Increases Training Capabilities with Newly Acquired Aircraft
Iraqi Police Deliver Food to Zuwarijat
Mullen Gets First-Hand Look at Sadr City Improvements
Hawijah’s Literacy Program Gains National Attention in Iraq
Iraqi Police NCOs Lead from the Front
Singing Event Strengthens Cultural Bonds, Promotes Unity
Troops Re-enlist on Independence Day
Funding Shapes Operating Environment
Scouts Make Friends, Help Keep Community Safe
Enemy Neutralized in Iraq’s Anbar Province, Colonel Says
IA, U.S. Soldiers Work Together to Search for Weapons
Ramadi Rebuilds As Region Recovers From Violence
Michigan Guard Members help Safeguard Reconstruction Efforts
Michigan Guard Members help Safeguard Reconstruction Efforts
Further Success for Iraqi, UK Joint Security Operation in Basra
Iraqi, U.S. Soldiers Conduct Patrols Near Fetoah
Iraqi Police Lead the Way in Fallujah’s Khadairy District
Tearing Down Old Barriers, Building New Relationships for Future
Fallujah Security Continues to Improve
Romanian Infantry Soldiers Attend Combat Logistical Patrol Academy
Last Surge Brigade to Return After Successful 13-Month Deployment
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?optio ... 1&Itemid=1
Click on the link at the bottom, and then select any story.
Leaders Discuss Stability, Growth
Recycling Turns Trash to Treasure
Senate Confirms Petraeus for CENTCOM, Odierno to Command MNF-I
Shi’a Pilgrims Make Safe Journey From Najaf to Samarra and Back
Iraqi Air Force Increases Training Capabilities with Newly Acquired Aircraft
Iraqi Police Deliver Food to Zuwarijat
Mullen Gets First-Hand Look at Sadr City Improvements
Hawijah’s Literacy Program Gains National Attention in Iraq
Iraqi Police NCOs Lead from the Front
Singing Event Strengthens Cultural Bonds, Promotes Unity
Troops Re-enlist on Independence Day
Funding Shapes Operating Environment
Scouts Make Friends, Help Keep Community Safe
Enemy Neutralized in Iraq’s Anbar Province, Colonel Says
IA, U.S. Soldiers Work Together to Search for Weapons
Ramadi Rebuilds As Region Recovers From Violence
Michigan Guard Members help Safeguard Reconstruction Efforts
Michigan Guard Members help Safeguard Reconstruction Efforts
Further Success for Iraqi, UK Joint Security Operation in Basra
Iraqi, U.S. Soldiers Conduct Patrols Near Fetoah
Iraqi Police Lead the Way in Fallujah’s Khadairy District
Tearing Down Old Barriers, Building New Relationships for Future
Fallujah Security Continues to Improve
Romanian Infantry Soldiers Attend Combat Logistical Patrol Academy
Last Surge Brigade to Return After Successful 13-Month Deployment
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NeedleMan wrote:Good New's from Iraq again!
We WON the War!
Needleman,
A Pro Military, Pro Strength, Pro America and Anti Liberal Lune Head Basher!
it is clear you are in a state of delusion. mission accomplished huh?
and why do all you cowards who refuse to serve in the military always claim to be such bad asses? head basher? the one in your hand every morning?
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Internet Courage......
pip,
Really interesting reply. The man presents the facts on the good news from Iraq, provides a source, and you immediately call him names and divine that he has never served in the Armed Forces of this country. All of this, without ever providing an ounce of proof that you have even served a day.
Joe Ribaudo
Really interesting reply. The man presents the facts on the good news from Iraq, provides a source, and you immediately call him names and divine that he has never served in the Armed Forces of this country. All of this, without ever providing an ounce of proof that you have even served a day.
Joe Ribaudo
We rarely get a chance to see another country's editorial about the USA .
Read this excerpt from a Romanian Newspaper. The article was written by Mr. Cornel Nistorescu and published under the title 'C'ntarea Americii, meaning 'Ode To America ') in the Romanian newspaper Evenimentulzilei 'The Daily Event' or 'News of the Day'
~An Ode to America ~
Why are Americans so united? They would not resemble one another even if you painted them all one color! They speak all the languages of the world and form an astonishing mixture of civilizations and religious beliefs.
Still, the American tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand put on the heart.
Nobody rushed to accuse the White House, the Army, or the Secret Service that they are only a bunch of losers.
Nobody rushed to empty their bank accounts.
Nobody rushed out onto the streets nearby to gape about
Instead the Americans volunteered to donate blood and to give a helping hand.
After the first moments of panic, they raised their flag over the smoking ruins, putting on T-shirts, caps and ties in the colors of the national flag. They placed flags on buildings and cars as if in every place and on every car a government official or the president was passing. On every occasion, they started singing:'God Bless America !'
I watched the live broadcast and rerun after rerun for hours listening to the story of the guy who went down one hundred floors with a woman in a wheelchair without knowing who she was, or of the Californian hockey player, who gave his life fighting with the terrorists and prevented the plane from hitting a target that could have killed other hundreds or thousands of people.
How on earth were they able to respond united as one human being? Imperceptibly, with every word and musical note, the memory of some turned into a modern myth of tragic heroes. And with every phone call, millions and millions of dollars were put into collection aimed at rewarding not a man or a family, but a spirit, which no money can buy.
What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way?
Their land? Their history? Their economic Power? Money?
I tried for hours to find an answer, humming songs and murmuring phrases with the risk of sounding commonplace, I thought things over, I reached but only one conclusion... Only freedom can work such miracles.
Cornel Nistorescu
(This deserves to be passed around the Internet forever.) It took a person on the outside - looking in - to see what we take for granted ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! !
Read this excerpt from a Romanian Newspaper. The article was written by Mr. Cornel Nistorescu and published under the title 'C'ntarea Americii, meaning 'Ode To America ') in the Romanian newspaper Evenimentulzilei 'The Daily Event' or 'News of the Day'
~An Ode to America ~
Why are Americans so united? They would not resemble one another even if you painted them all one color! They speak all the languages of the world and form an astonishing mixture of civilizations and religious beliefs.
Still, the American tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand put on the heart.
Nobody rushed to accuse the White House, the Army, or the Secret Service that they are only a bunch of losers.
Nobody rushed to empty their bank accounts.
Nobody rushed out onto the streets nearby to gape about
Instead the Americans volunteered to donate blood and to give a helping hand.
After the first moments of panic, they raised their flag over the smoking ruins, putting on T-shirts, caps and ties in the colors of the national flag. They placed flags on buildings and cars as if in every place and on every car a government official or the president was passing. On every occasion, they started singing:'God Bless America !'
I watched the live broadcast and rerun after rerun for hours listening to the story of the guy who went down one hundred floors with a woman in a wheelchair without knowing who she was, or of the Californian hockey player, who gave his life fighting with the terrorists and prevented the plane from hitting a target that could have killed other hundreds or thousands of people.
How on earth were they able to respond united as one human being? Imperceptibly, with every word and musical note, the memory of some turned into a modern myth of tragic heroes. And with every phone call, millions and millions of dollars were put into collection aimed at rewarding not a man or a family, but a spirit, which no money can buy.
What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way?
Their land? Their history? Their economic Power? Money?
I tried for hours to find an answer, humming songs and murmuring phrases with the risk of sounding commonplace, I thought things over, I reached but only one conclusion... Only freedom can work such miracles.
Cornel Nistorescu
(This deserves to be passed around the Internet forever.) It took a person on the outside - looking in - to see what we take for granted ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! !
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Das Mission.....
lbj,
Perhaps you have your missions confused. President Bush was right.
Joe Ribaudo
Perhaps you have your missions confused. President Bush was right.
Joe Ribaudo
Needles
Needles,
show me where the war has been "officially won", and then tell me how this pair of words mean any more than "Mission Accomplished" which proved to be worthless platitudes?
Are you really as retarded as you act? You are easily the fucking dumbest person that posts on this site. You make a fool of yourself on a daily basis.
So down with liberals?
Hitler didn't like liberals either. Neither did the guy that shot up the church full of children. In fact, when that happened, you were the first person I thought of... good ol' retarded Needles, and his broken little brain.
Brad
show me where the war has been "officially won", and then tell me how this pair of words mean any more than "Mission Accomplished" which proved to be worthless platitudes?
Are you really as retarded as you act? You are easily the fucking dumbest person that posts on this site. You make a fool of yourself on a daily basis.
So down with liberals?
Hitler didn't like liberals either. Neither did the guy that shot up the church full of children. In fact, when that happened, you were the first person I thought of... good ol' retarded Needles, and his broken little brain.
Brad
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By MATT APUZZO and LARA JAKES JORDAN, APposted: 2 HOURS 24 MINUTES AGOcomments: 475PrintSharefiled under: Crime News, National News, Science NewsText SizeAAAWASHINGTON (Aug. 1) -- Federal prosecutors investigating the 2001 anthrax attacks were planning to indict and seek the death penalty against a top Army microbiologist in connection with anthrax mailings that killed five people. The scientist, who was developing a vaccine against the deadly toxin, committed suicide this week.
The scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, worked for the past 18 years at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick, Md. For more than a decade, he worked to develop an anthrax vaccine that was effective even in cases where different strains of anthrax were mixed, which made vaccines ineffective, according to federal
interesting that a high security clearance government employee is responsible for the anthrax attacks...
The scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, worked for the past 18 years at the government's biodefense labs at Fort Detrick, Md. For more than a decade, he worked to develop an anthrax vaccine that was effective even in cases where different strains of anthrax were mixed, which made vaccines ineffective, according to federal
interesting that a high security clearance government employee is responsible for the anthrax attacks...
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seems someone forgot to tell the "enemy" that needleman declared the war over.
KABUL, Afghanistan - Roadside bombs killed five NATO troops in eastern Afghanistan on Friday, as 100 aid groups warned that violence in the country was spreading to once-stable regions and hindering humanitarian efforts.
The soldiers' deaths marked a bloody start to the month in what's already been a deadly year for U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, where a Taliban-led insurgency is raging nearly seven years after their fundamentalist Muslim regime was ousted in a U.S.-led invasion.
Four of the NATO soldiers and a civilian died in Kunar province Friday, the alliance said in a statement. The fifth soldier death was in Khost, another eastern province. The alliance did not release the nationalities of the soldiers. However, most of the troops in those areas are American.
KABUL, Afghanistan - Roadside bombs killed five NATO troops in eastern Afghanistan on Friday, as 100 aid groups warned that violence in the country was spreading to once-stable regions and hindering humanitarian efforts.
The soldiers' deaths marked a bloody start to the month in what's already been a deadly year for U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, where a Taliban-led insurgency is raging nearly seven years after their fundamentalist Muslim regime was ousted in a U.S.-led invasion.
Four of the NATO soldiers and a civilian died in Kunar province Friday, the alliance said in a statement. The fifth soldier death was in Khost, another eastern province. The alliance did not release the nationalities of the soldiers. However, most of the troops in those areas are American.
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Paying Attention.....
pip,
Just to be clear, I believe the statement was that the war in Iraq was over. For your information, the war against the Government of Iraq and Saddam was over when President Bush announced "mission accomplished".
The war against radical Islam will probably never be over. Think of the positive spin that can be put on that......Twenty years from now you will still be able complain and blaim President Bush for starting the ongoing war against terrorists. It just don't get any better than that.
Joe Ribaudo
Just to be clear, I believe the statement was that the war in Iraq was over. For your information, the war against the Government of Iraq and Saddam was over when President Bush announced "mission accomplished".
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The war against radical Islam will probably never be over. Think of the positive spin that can be put on that......Twenty years from now you will still be able complain and blaim President Bush for starting the ongoing war against terrorists. It just don't get any better than that.
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Joe Ribaudo
Rodeo Clown
Hey Joe,
I wrote a song about a near-sighted rodeo clown. I call it 'Beer Farts and Bravado'. I doubt you'd really care for it, though.
Honestly, Joe...
you may be right. If the mission was to violate international law by bombing a building occupied by civilians in the middle of the night, then no doubt about it... mission accomplished. If the mission was to lie about a hospital that never really got built... again, mission accomplished.
Pip,
I feel bad for Needles. I really do. Normally I would consider it very classless to pick on a guy so limited in smarts, but in his case, I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. He hates cans.
Brad
I wrote a song about a near-sighted rodeo clown. I call it 'Beer Farts and Bravado'. I doubt you'd really care for it, though.
Honestly, Joe...
you may be right. If the mission was to violate international law by bombing a building occupied by civilians in the middle of the night, then no doubt about it... mission accomplished. If the mission was to lie about a hospital that never really got built... again, mission accomplished.
Pip,
I feel bad for Needles. I really do. Normally I would consider it very classless to pick on a guy so limited in smarts, but in his case, I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. He hates cans.
Brad
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read article 11.
clearly the "highest law of the land" treaties ratifyed by congress...makes any war in the middle east and illegal war.
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Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
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Annals of Congress, 5th Congress
Article 1. There is a firm and perpetual peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary, made by the free consent of both parties, and guarantied by the most potent Dey and Regency of Algiers.
Art. 2. If any goods belonging to any nation with which either of the parties is at war, shall be loaded on board of vessels belonging to the other party, they shall pass free, and no attempt shall be made to take or detain them.
Art. 3. If any citizens , subjects, or effects, belonging to either party, shall be found on board a prize vessel taken from an enemy by the other party, such citizens or subjects shall be set at liberty, and the effects restored to the owners.
Art. 4. Proper passports are to be given to all vessels of both parties, by which they are to be known. And considering the distance between the two countries, eighteen months from the date of this treaty, shall be allowed for procuring such passports. During this interval the other papers, belonging to such vessels, shall be sufficient for their protection.
Art. 5. A citizen or subject of either party having bought a prize vessel, condemned by the other party, or by any other nation, the certificates of condemnation and bill of sale shall be a sufficient passport for such vessel for one year; this being a reasonable time for her to procure a proper passport.
Art. 6. Vessels of either party, putting into the ports of the other, and having need of provisions or other supplies, they shall be furnished at the market price. And if any such vessel shall so put in, from a disaster at sea, and have occasion to repair, she shall be at liberty to land and re-embark her cargo without paying any duties. But in case shall she be compelled to the land her cargo.
Art. 7. Should a vessel of either party be cast on the shore of the other, all proper assistance shall be given to her and her people; no pillage shall be allowed; the property shall remain at the disposition of the owners; and the crew protectedand succored till they can be sent to their country.
Art. 8. If a vessel of either party should be attacked by an enemy, within gun-shot of the forts of the other , she shall be defended as much as possible. If she be in port she shall not be seized on or attacked, when it is in the power of the other party to protect her. And when she proceeds to sea, no enemy shall be allowed to pursue her from the same port, within twenty-four hours after her departure.
Art. 9. The commerce between the United States and Tripoli; the protection to be given to merchants, masters of vessels, and seamen; the reciprocal right of the establishing Consuls in each country; and the privileges, immunities, and jurisdiction, to be on the same footing with those of the most favored nations respectively.
Art. 10. The money and presents demanded by the Bey of Tripoli, as a full and satisfactory consideration on his part, and on the part of his subjects, for this treaty of perpetual peace and friendship, are acknowledged to have been received by him previous to his signing the same, according to a receipt which is hereto annexed, except such as part as is promised, on the part of the United States, to be delivered and paid by them on the arrival of their Consul in Tripoli; of which part a note is likewise hereto annexed. And no pretense of any periodical tribute of further payments is ever to be made by either party.
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Art. 12. In case of any dispute, arising from a violation of any of the articles of this treaty, no appeal shall be made to arms; nor shall war be declared on any pretext whatever. But if the Consul, residing at the place where the dispute shall happen, shall not be able to settle the same, an amicable referrence shall be made to the mutual friend of the parties, the Dey of Algiers; the parties hereby engaging to abide by his decision. And he, by virtue of his signature to this treaty, engages for himself and successors to declare the justice of the case, according to the true interpretation of the treaty, and to use all the means in his power to enforce the observance of the same.
Signed and sealed at Tripoli of Barbary the 3d day of Junad in the year of the Hegira 1211— corresponding with the 4th day of November, 1796, by
JUSSOF BASHAW MAHOMET, Bey.
MAMET, Treasurer.
AMET, Minister of Marine.
SOLIMAN KAYA.
GALIL, General of the Troops.
MAHOMET, Commander of the City.
AMET, Chamberlain.
ALLY, Chief of the Divan.
MAMET, Secretary.
Signed and sealed at Algiers, the 4th day of Argill, 1211—corresponding with the 3d day of
January, 1797, by
HASSAN BASHAW, Dey,
And by the agent Plenipotentiary of the United States of America,
JOEL BARLOW.
clearly the "highest law of the land" treaties ratifyed by congress...makes any war in the middle east and illegal war.
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Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
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Annals of Congress, 5th Congress
Article 1. There is a firm and perpetual peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary, made by the free consent of both parties, and guarantied by the most potent Dey and Regency of Algiers.
Art. 2. If any goods belonging to any nation with which either of the parties is at war, shall be loaded on board of vessels belonging to the other party, they shall pass free, and no attempt shall be made to take or detain them.
Art. 3. If any citizens , subjects, or effects, belonging to either party, shall be found on board a prize vessel taken from an enemy by the other party, such citizens or subjects shall be set at liberty, and the effects restored to the owners.
Art. 4. Proper passports are to be given to all vessels of both parties, by which they are to be known. And considering the distance between the two countries, eighteen months from the date of this treaty, shall be allowed for procuring such passports. During this interval the other papers, belonging to such vessels, shall be sufficient for their protection.
Art. 5. A citizen or subject of either party having bought a prize vessel, condemned by the other party, or by any other nation, the certificates of condemnation and bill of sale shall be a sufficient passport for such vessel for one year; this being a reasonable time for her to procure a proper passport.
Art. 6. Vessels of either party, putting into the ports of the other, and having need of provisions or other supplies, they shall be furnished at the market price. And if any such vessel shall so put in, from a disaster at sea, and have occasion to repair, she shall be at liberty to land and re-embark her cargo without paying any duties. But in case shall she be compelled to the land her cargo.
Art. 7. Should a vessel of either party be cast on the shore of the other, all proper assistance shall be given to her and her people; no pillage shall be allowed; the property shall remain at the disposition of the owners; and the crew protectedand succored till they can be sent to their country.
Art. 8. If a vessel of either party should be attacked by an enemy, within gun-shot of the forts of the other , she shall be defended as much as possible. If she be in port she shall not be seized on or attacked, when it is in the power of the other party to protect her. And when she proceeds to sea, no enemy shall be allowed to pursue her from the same port, within twenty-four hours after her departure.
Art. 9. The commerce between the United States and Tripoli; the protection to be given to merchants, masters of vessels, and seamen; the reciprocal right of the establishing Consuls in each country; and the privileges, immunities, and jurisdiction, to be on the same footing with those of the most favored nations respectively.
Art. 10. The money and presents demanded by the Bey of Tripoli, as a full and satisfactory consideration on his part, and on the part of his subjects, for this treaty of perpetual peace and friendship, are acknowledged to have been received by him previous to his signing the same, according to a receipt which is hereto annexed, except such as part as is promised, on the part of the United States, to be delivered and paid by them on the arrival of their Consul in Tripoli; of which part a note is likewise hereto annexed. And no pretense of any periodical tribute of further payments is ever to be made by either party.
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Art. 12. In case of any dispute, arising from a violation of any of the articles of this treaty, no appeal shall be made to arms; nor shall war be declared on any pretext whatever. But if the Consul, residing at the place where the dispute shall happen, shall not be able to settle the same, an amicable referrence shall be made to the mutual friend of the parties, the Dey of Algiers; the parties hereby engaging to abide by his decision. And he, by virtue of his signature to this treaty, engages for himself and successors to declare the justice of the case, according to the true interpretation of the treaty, and to use all the means in his power to enforce the observance of the same.
Signed and sealed at Tripoli of Barbary the 3d day of Junad in the year of the Hegira 1211— corresponding with the 4th day of November, 1796, by
JUSSOF BASHAW MAHOMET, Bey.
MAMET, Treasurer.
AMET, Minister of Marine.
SOLIMAN KAYA.
GALIL, General of the Troops.
MAHOMET, Commander of the City.
AMET, Chamberlain.
ALLY, Chief of the Divan.
MAMET, Secretary.
Signed and sealed at Algiers, the 4th day of Argill, 1211—corresponding with the 3d day of
January, 1797, by
HASSAN BASHAW, Dey,
And by the agent Plenipotentiary of the United States of America,
JOEL BARLOW.
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Understanding What You Read.......
Jihad Don,
"read article 11.
clearly the "highest law of the land" treaties ratifyed by congress...makes any war in the middle east and illegal war."
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Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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Your assertion is unfounded by any possible intelligent interpretation of article 11. The ability to understand what you are reading does not seem to be a requirement in this day of the dumbing-down of our American youth. Your comment is an excellent example of that.
Have you now left the oil argument behind for the more emotional and politically incorrect religious argument, as a reason for our being in Iraq? Not to worry, as that aligns you very well with those who want to make this a war of religions. Just how long will it be before you become so enraged that you strap a bomb to your body and blow up your neighbors on Christmas day?
One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream, for whatever reason, and now blame this country for all the things you don't have, but believe you deserve. I have news for you. The reason you seem to be stuck at the mediocre level you are at today, has nothing to do with "the man" or the policies of your country. It's all you.
This Forum, or a hate filled blog, are the only places that make you feel important. A few good people are compelled to refute your ridiculous claims and that disturbs the little straw houses you have built for shelter. There are many places in the world where your free speech would bring death. I doubt life would treat you any better there.
A man's got to know his limitations, and I believe you have reached yours. That's sad.
Joe Ribaudo
"read article 11.
clearly the "highest law of the land" treaties ratifyed by congress...makes any war in the middle east and illegal war."
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Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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Your assertion is unfounded by any possible intelligent interpretation of article 11. The ability to understand what you are reading does not seem to be a requirement in this day of the dumbing-down of our American youth. Your comment is an excellent example of that.
Have you now left the oil argument behind for the more emotional and politically incorrect religious argument, as a reason for our being in Iraq? Not to worry, as that aligns you very well with those who want to make this a war of religions. Just how long will it be before you become so enraged that you strap a bomb to your body and blow up your neighbors on Christmas day?
One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream, for whatever reason, and now blame this country for all the things you don't have, but believe you deserve. I have news for you. The reason you seem to be stuck at the mediocre level you are at today, has nothing to do with "the man" or the policies of your country. It's all you.
This Forum, or a hate filled blog, are the only places that make you feel important. A few good people are compelled to refute your ridiculous claims and that disturbs the little straw houses you have built for shelter. There are many places in the world where your free speech would bring death. I doubt life would treat you any better there.
A man's got to know his limitations, and I believe you have reached yours. That's sad.
Joe Ribaudo
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Bribery Coast.....
Jihad Don,
One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream, for whatever reason, and now blame this country for all the things you don't have, but believe you deserve. I have news for you. The reason you seem to be stuck at the mediocre level you are at today, has nothing to do with "the man" or the policies of your country. It's all you.
This Forum, or a hate filled blog, are the only places that make you feel important. A few good people are compelled to refute your ridiculous claims and that disturbs the little straw houses you have built for shelter. There are many places in the world where your free speech would bring death. I doubt life would treat you any better there.
A man's got to know his limitations, and I believe you have reached yours. That's sad.
Joe Ribaudo
I have no idea which article you want to use for your argument at this point.
The "so called" treaty lasted four years and was one of many. Your first clue as to the nature of the "treaty" is at the very beginning. These people were "Pirates" and were demanding protection money and gifts to keep our ships safe from attack.
In other words, the "treaty" was made under duress.......serious duress. That particular "treaty" lasted four years, followed by others and more blood money.
You need to follow up on your historical research into the facts surrounding our dealings with the Bribery Coast. Yes, I know I misspelled the name, or did I? You sir are welcome to bow your knee to Tripoli or grovel at the feet of people who honor NO Treaty.
History will not be deleted or edited like the posts on this Forum. You can easily go back and become informed on the subject. If you would like me to refer a good book or two, I will be more than happy. You should be able to find something at NAU.
Joe Ribaudo
One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream, for whatever reason, and now blame this country for all the things you don't have, but believe you deserve. I have news for you. The reason you seem to be stuck at the mediocre level you are at today, has nothing to do with "the man" or the policies of your country. It's all you.
This Forum, or a hate filled blog, are the only places that make you feel important. A few good people are compelled to refute your ridiculous claims and that disturbs the little straw houses you have built for shelter. There are many places in the world where your free speech would bring death. I doubt life would treat you any better there.
A man's got to know his limitations, and I believe you have reached yours. That's sad.
Joe Ribaudo
I have no idea which article you want to use for your argument at this point.
The "so called" treaty lasted four years and was one of many. Your first clue as to the nature of the "treaty" is at the very beginning. These people were "Pirates" and were demanding protection money and gifts to keep our ships safe from attack.
In other words, the "treaty" was made under duress.......serious duress. That particular "treaty" lasted four years, followed by others and more blood money.
You need to follow up on your historical research into the facts surrounding our dealings with the Bribery Coast. Yes, I know I misspelled the name, or did I? You sir are welcome to bow your knee to Tripoli or grovel at the feet of people who honor NO Treaty.
History will not be deleted or edited like the posts on this Forum. You can easily go back and become informed on the subject. If you would like me to refer a good book or two, I will be more than happy. You should be able to find something at NAU.
Joe Ribaudo
Rodeo Clown
Joe wrote,
"One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream"
One would think Joe could tell the difference between a man and a nation. Bush is not a nation, he is a war criminal. That's like saying the dog collar is the dog. No wonder you have never found shit.
As for whether or not I missed out on the "American Dream" I found what you've been looking for, and you didn't. There is no need for me to discuss that subject with you... there never was. I found it before I met you. Until you learn your left from right, you're lucky not to piss on your shoes.
However, there is no doubt that thousands of young men missed out on the American dream when they died while participating in the illegal occupation of Iraq. That's blood on your hands, not mine.
Experts say some people suffer from a sickness that won't allow them to face the truth. They are called Bush supporters.
Brad
"One suspects that you and Brad have missed out on the American dream"
One would think Joe could tell the difference between a man and a nation. Bush is not a nation, he is a war criminal. That's like saying the dog collar is the dog. No wonder you have never found shit.
As for whether or not I missed out on the "American Dream" I found what you've been looking for, and you didn't. There is no need for me to discuss that subject with you... there never was. I found it before I met you. Until you learn your left from right, you're lucky not to piss on your shoes.
However, there is no doubt that thousands of young men missed out on the American dream when they died while participating in the illegal occupation of Iraq. That's blood on your hands, not mine.
Experts say some people suffer from a sickness that won't allow them to face the truth. They are called Bush supporters.
Brad
Joe
Joe,
wow...
Pip just whupped your sorry ass. You might see better if you pulled your head out of your ass.
As for the war, you lost that debate already. There is no going back to make it right. You cannot un-tell the lies, nor un-kill the dead. It's too late to redeem yourself.
Brad
wow...
Pip just whupped your sorry ass. You might see better if you pulled your head out of your ass.
As for the war, you lost that debate already. There is no going back to make it right. You cannot un-tell the lies, nor un-kill the dead. It's too late to redeem yourself.
Brad
Joe wrote:
"Have you now left the oil argument behind for the more emotional and politically incorrect religious argument, as a reason for our being in Iraq? Not to worry, as that aligns you very well with those who want to make this a war of religions. Just how long will it be before you become so enraged that you strap a bomb to your body and blow up your neighbors on Christmas day?"
This is the most disgusting quote Joe has every made on this site. How fucking dare he accuse Pip of being a suicide bomber. Someone just might get their fucking teeth knocked out, and it might be Joe.
Joe,
you are a filthy little pig. Oink, oink, little pig!
Brad
"Have you now left the oil argument behind for the more emotional and politically incorrect religious argument, as a reason for our being in Iraq? Not to worry, as that aligns you very well with those who want to make this a war of religions. Just how long will it be before you become so enraged that you strap a bomb to your body and blow up your neighbors on Christmas day?"
This is the most disgusting quote Joe has every made on this site. How fucking dare he accuse Pip of being a suicide bomber. Someone just might get their fucking teeth knocked out, and it might be Joe.
Joe,
you are a filthy little pig. Oink, oink, little pig!
Brad
Terror and Reality
Does this remind anyone of anyone we might know?
"Any person or society told that it's being threatened and that disbelievers are exacerbating the danger will tend to respond irrationally."
Joe,
you're just scared. You really need to stop fearing the boogie man. The Chinese are not crossing the Rockies, Pip is not an angry jihadist, and Bush is not America. The bad guys have frightened you into an irrational stupor.
Your comment about Pip blowing up his neighbors on Christmas day was the product of your disgusting imagination... not his. You're the one articulating desperate, dangerous ideas. You are truly behaving deranged. Grow up already!
Brad
"Any person or society told that it's being threatened and that disbelievers are exacerbating the danger will tend to respond irrationally."
Joe,
you're just scared. You really need to stop fearing the boogie man. The Chinese are not crossing the Rockies, Pip is not an angry jihadist, and Bush is not America. The bad guys have frightened you into an irrational stupor.
Your comment about Pip blowing up his neighbors on Christmas day was the product of your disgusting imagination... not his. You're the one articulating desperate, dangerous ideas. You are truly behaving deranged. Grow up already!
Brad
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War Mongers.....
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly those who are so opposed to the war, are so quick to resort to threats of violence over......words.
There are times when certain acts seem to be a justification for violence. War and death are the ultimate violent reaction to perceived atrocities.
This is not the first time that Brad has threatened violence. Somewhat unusual for a pothead, but not unheard of. At a guess, the nearest Brad has ever come to real violence.......are his words. That usually consists of the childish names that have a happy home in his head.
Hopefully he will not let his imagination, while high, take him to a place of no return. Coming down, usually, brings some semblance of sanity to an otherwise chaotic mind.
This will be my last post here, as I don't really want to be the catalyst for Brad doing anything to harm himself or others.
Take care,
Joe Ribaudo
There are times when certain acts seem to be a justification for violence. War and death are the ultimate violent reaction to perceived atrocities.
This is not the first time that Brad has threatened violence. Somewhat unusual for a pothead, but not unheard of. At a guess, the nearest Brad has ever come to real violence.......are his words. That usually consists of the childish names that have a happy home in his head.
Hopefully he will not let his imagination, while high, take him to a place of no return. Coming down, usually, brings some semblance of sanity to an otherwise chaotic mind.
This will be my last post here, as I don't really want to be the catalyst for Brad doing anything to harm himself or others.
Take care,
Joe Ribaudo