Lost Dutchman Goldmine

When I first purchased Corbin's "The Bible on the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine and Jacob Waltz" I was amazed and excited to see a lot of new information on a man who had been dead for well over a hundred years. All in one place we had the ship Jacob arrived on (Olbers), the town he immigrated f...

My initial post was focused solely on the Naturalization paper and it's history. I had only loosely connected the naturalization to the map and other documents. Joe suggested an interesting scenario in his post that I really hadn't thought much about. Joe wrote; "In your search, the logical, IM...

I noticed I got Hermann and Pete screwed up in my initial post. Sorry about that. I feel like the naturalization trail is one of the continuous threads that might provide a framework for me to build some of my own thoughts around. The incidents and information related by Bark are key if I can decide...

Aurum, Thanks for the information! This clears up a lot. I thought the Great Maricopa Register was a voter Registration Book. After reading your post it did dawn on me that I might be able to order the microfilm from the LDS Library. They have a microfilm collection called "Official registers o...

My questions actually concern "The Great Register of Maricopa County" but it is related to Jacob's Citizenship papers. My interest in Jacob's citizenship papers spring from a couple of observations. The papers are mentioned in the Bark account with relationship to Hermann Petrasch. Jacob s...

Aurum

Most of this stuff is all new to me!

Thanks so much for your patience!

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Everyone, Enjoyed the inputs. I guess I'm still trying to look at trees. Aurum I asked for a time frame of when the document first turned up in the LDM community. You gave me a whole load. (A special thanks!) The 1928 date and background were great! Now you are in for it! :D Am I correct in assuming...

I'm going to add my comments, ask one more question about this draft and then give it a rest for a while. Frankly I'm starting to get a headache. My gut feel is that our document is quite a bit further down the food chain than those Joe is referring to in "Control of Federal Expenditures"....

I think I might understand the paper trail better if someone would help me with the gold trail. If someone could walk me through it step by step I would appreciate it. Jacob takes his sack of gold ore town. Where does he go? Who would assay the ore? Where would the gold physically go next? (After it...

Joe, I sincerely apologize for the making error!! :oops: When I was writing the post I felt it was innocent enough but now I realize that it was bad mistake. I should have at the very least have reread you post before putting words in your mouth. Preferably I should have pasted that portion of your ...

Good Point about the Bark reference to "ebony and marble". I had passed that over. I just got Dr. Golver's book and already saw the Artic Soda Fountain Ad. (Wow) He talks about $20,000 in debts and I am worried about a few thousand! If we take his CPI calculations to convert that to curren...

I too am interested in the signature of Gilfillan. I think Wiz brings up an interesting point regarding whether it is a preprinted form. I suspect it is either preprinted or an agent of the U. S. Treasury was assigned a stamp that was applied at the time of the transaction. I think Joe is right abou...

Joe, I'm getting off of the subject here, but from your post: "Taking Rhiney's word for the gold being given to Julia, and assuming that Waltz was being truthful" I know at some point I will find that a lot of stuff that is not documentable and I will have to make some choices on who was t...

Aurum The next questions I was getting around to were: Did he actually purchase the Artic Soda Fountain? Did he purchase the top of the line Model? In what year did he purchase it? Does anyone see anything in the photo, that looks like a Soda Fountain? How was he able to finance it? Who did Julia ha...

From the notes of Jim Bark (Page 172-173 – Corbin 2002), he indicated that Reiney Petrasch told him the story of an expensive Soda Fountain that Emil Thomas purchased (Abt 1889) and then skipped out leaving Julia with a lot of debts . Jacob Waltz paid her debts with gold and this story has become an...

Thanks for the kind words. Joe, please don't get me wrapped up in the intrigue of the site. I am who I say I am. :) My wife and I were in Arizona for a few weeks this spring and we hiked a couple of days in the Superstitions and bought a couple of books on the LDM. I had read a book by Robert Blair ...

Transmitting Draft on Accountable Warrant I have read all of the posts and it seems like the ground has been pretty well covered (I began to understand the procedure when Aurum walked me through the process of getting gold changed to money and transported to someone in Kansas - Missouri.) I would li...

Thanks Joe and Aurum, I am trying to verify whether Gertrude's story was even feasible. I have looked at some family genealogy that has been posted on the internet for Gertrude's Family and it relates that John Logie Anderson and his family came to Gilbert AZ in about 1887/89 with the Fred Weekes fa...

I have a question about an entry in Helen Corbin's 2002 Book on Page 322. She relates that Walter Gassler talked to Tex Barkley's wife Gertrude who said that she had known Jacob Waltz when she was a little girl. I do not have access to the "Unadultereted" Gassler Family Notes and I wanted ...