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- Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:47 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
- Replies: 93
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Re: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
Joe: I received my copy of the second Crazy Jake manuscript in late 2008. I actually learned of the manuscript from a discussion that you were having with Peter back in 2004, which you can revisit at this link: http://www.thelostdutchmangoldmine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=363&start=0&...
- Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:09 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
- Replies: 93
- Views: 133436
Re: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
Hello Roger/All: I'm sorry for causing more confusion. I seem to be batting 1.000 on this topic so far, heh-heh. Regarding the use of the name "Silas" in my last post, that was actually just my editorial note, setting up the scene in which Crazy Jake and Al Morrow were talking that night i...
- Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:28 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
- Replies: 93
- Views: 133436
Re: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
In light of the previous excerpt, the passage below by Crazy Jake seems a bit odd. [Note: In the spring of 1970, Crazy Jake visited Al Morrow in Al's camp and found that Al, having lost his financial backers, was out of food and broke, and had lost a lot of weight and was in generally poor shape. He...
- Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:04 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
- Replies: 93
- Views: 133436
Re: The John B. Kochera Story Revisited
Hello All: I need to apologize for not being more thorough in researching the Crazy Jake manuscripts for any mention of the John Kochera story. It turns out that Jake did include the April 1974 letter in his second manuscript, although he did not include either of the Haywood/Kochera maps. (Jake did...
- Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:06 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Joe/All: I doubt the ore/gold concentrate is still in its original form, since a specific weight of the gold and silver is given in the line item (#10). The only way those values could have been determined would have been to totally separate out the gold and silver from the host rock. The gold, comi...
- Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:27 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Joe: Helen Corbin was not explicit in the source for this particular line item (#10). However, the implication is that it (along with the other 9 items in the list) came from either the Roberts or Edwards family notes. Since the line item specifies the Crissmon and Nichols analysis (and even more sp...
- Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:59 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Hello All: For those still looking into this thread, here's a little more information that ties into the report posted by Wasp. THE BIBLE ON THE LOST DUTCHMAN GOLD MINE AND JACOB WALTZ (Helen Corbin, Wolfe Publishing Company, 2002, page 289) Item #10 in the list entitled: "The following items h...
- Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:16 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Hello Roger: It looks like you’ve had a chance to review some of the USGS models and you had some comments that I’d like to address: 1. The USGS has a number of published "models" on different types of ore deposits from across the U.S. Each of these models has a Model Number associated wit...
- Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:50 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Hello All: In addition to sharing what he found on the purported author(s) of Wasp’s report, Garry has pointed out one of the dilemmas we face regarding it, and I too feel we are being left to ponder whether there is more to the story behind it. But as Garry also indicated, we appear to be on our ow...
- Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:04 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Wasp: This is my understanding of the issues you have brought to the thread, and I hope you can clear up anything that I have wrong. Dick Holmes sold most of the Dutchman’s deathbed ore to Goldman & Co. This ore was later sold by the Goldman to other Phoenix families, at least one of whom had th...
- Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:11 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Hello All: I revisited both Dr Glover’s second book and the SMHS rare reprint of the Brownie Holmes manuscript, and am certain that the matchbox was not mentioned in either copy. Brownie did mention the involvement of Joe Poterie in the following passage: “Some stories have been related at various t...
- Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:51 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
Garry: I don’t believe the matchbox is mentioned in Brownie’s manuscript, at least not in the rare reprint copy I bought from SMHS. I’ll need to reread it today and then revisit Dr Glover’s second book to see if it is mentioned there in some of his editorial comments. I’ll let you know if I run acro...
- Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:06 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
In his 1944 (?) manuscript, Brownie Holmes stated that he currently had in his possession: a pair of cufflinks, a tiepin, a “priceless” ring, and a number of pieces of quartz If the above date for the manuscript is accurate, Brownie’s mother, Ida Davis Holmes, had recently passed away (within the pr...
- Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:55 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
- Replies: 100
- Views: 148683
Re: The Trail of Jacob Waltz’s Gold Ore
pippinwhitepaws/All: I don’t believe Garry’s intent was to illustrate the history of the mountains, but instead is to show the trail of Waltz’s ore based on the sources he cited, including Brownie’s affidavit, the affidavits of Tom Kollenborn and Bob Corbin, and the published details of the ore test...
- Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:47 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Roberts Family
- Replies: 6
- Views: 8284
Roberts Family?
Hello Roger: Well, I’m not even sure where to start. The family historian? Gideon? George Riley? The family farm? Matthew Robert’s relationship to the family? Family familiarity with Dick Holmes? With Jacob Waltz? The discovery of the richest gold mine in California, only to walk away from it for a ...
- Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:34 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Roberts Family
- Replies: 6
- Views: 8284
Roberts Family
Exactly why is it that we can not resolve what either Glover or Corbin state about the Roberts Family?
Ozarker
Ozarker
- Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:17 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Adolph Ruth - Did He See The LDM?????
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21047
Let's Be Honest
There's only one reason the other site went off the line. Figure it out
Ozarker
Ozarker
- Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:38 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Military Trail
- Replies: 9
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Red Hills
Hello All: The three red hills located east of the upper La Barge Box are mentioned in the Hiker’s Guide (page 179), but their exact position is not discussed, nor are they shown or annotated on any of the guide’s inset maps. This group of red hills has been mentioned as a candidate for the landmark...
- Mon May 25, 2009 2:45 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
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- Mon May 25, 2009 1:49 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
(#60) Yesterday [Actual Date Unknown], 02:06 PM Joe_Ribaudo Garry, Larry, Curly and Moe, Frank Alkire did a lot of writing. I have two of the manuscripts which have been mentioned as possibly mentioning Jacob Waltz and the circumstances surrounding his death. In total I have four of the many Alkire...
- Mon May 25, 2009 1:46 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
Late Fall.....
(#59) 03-26-2009, 08:07 AM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Late Fall...... Garry, You are correct. It was the "late fall" of 1890. My source is Frank's "....Little Lady...." manuscript. Should have waited until I was home to make that post. I have a copy of the hand written manuscript, as ...
- Mon May 25, 2009 1:44 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
Fall of 1891
(# Fifty-eight) 03-26-2009, 05:59 AM Novice Subject: Fall of 1891 Joe, I'm not able to identify your reference (I have probably never seen it?) but the date "in the late fall of 1891, Frank sent Asenath to California to be with family during her pregnancy" does not match with the birth of...
- Mon May 25, 2009 1:41 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
Was He There.....
(#57) 03-25-2009, 02:25 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Was He There..... All, In the "late fall" of 1891, Frank sent Asenath to California to be with family during her pregnancy. That would be after Waltz's death, probably in early to mid-December. Prior to that, he was very busy on the ranch. T...
- Mon May 25, 2009 1:39 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
Correct....
(#56) 03-22-2009, 10:40 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Correct.... Garry, You are, of course, correct. The 1900 Census shows two children living in the home. Josieh, age 9 and Ruth, age 1. The residence is listed as: Phoenix City (North of Washington, East of Center St.)......... I agree with your timelin...
- Mon May 25, 2009 1:38 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
- Replies: 64
- Views: 81450
Frank Alkire's Second Child
(#55) 03-22-2009, 09:33 PM Novice Subject: Frank Alkire's Second Child Joe. You wrote: For the record, George Copes Alkire was that second child. He was born May 20, 1903. George was actually the 4th child. There were two daughter's born between Josiah (Jay) and George. Asenath (2nd), Ruby (3rd). B...