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by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:30 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#29) 03-18-2009, 09:42 AM zentull I believe someone posted these photographs, but those posts are missing from when the site went down. Donofrios exterior and interior photographs at 25 east Washington. http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/668/donofrios25ewashington.jpg http://img20.imageshack.us/img2...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:28 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#28) 3-18-2009, 09:38 AM zentull J W Dorris cash grocers at 1st and Washington. Dorris as mentioned earlier in this thread established his first store in 1888 and sold out to his brother in 1891. Dorris became partners in R W Drapers and later bought him out, establishing this store (which expande...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:27 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

County Records and Sanborn Maps

(#27) 03-18-2009, 06:43 AM Ozarker Subject: County Records and Sanborn Maps Novice/All: Garry has echoed a point that others have also made. This type of material and the number, complexity, and vagaries of the records can be intimidating for some, while others simply don't have the time to go thro...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:25 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Shortcut?

(#26) 03-18-2009, 05:55 AM Novice Subject: Shortcut? I know Larry would like to have everyone look over his shoulder and satisfy themselves regarding the location of Julia's business. I also realize his research is awfully intimidating. I wanted to offer a shortcut that I used that got me 99% of th...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:21 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#25) 03-17-2009, 06:34 PM Gregory E. Davis Paul: Chances are there were no major changes in Phoenix from 1890 to 92 so what the Sanborn people would do is simply draw in new lines for buildings or past in small pieces of paper to denote any changes rather than do an entire new map. I have seen thi...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:20 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#24) 03-17-2009, 05:55 PM Cubfan64 Quote: Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis “Hello Paul: I have a copy of the Sanborn Map for Phoenix for l889, 1890, and 1893. The stamp on the maps indicate I got them through the Library of Congress however there may be duplicates at the Arizona State Capitol...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:19 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#23)

03-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Gregory E. Davis

Hello Paul: I have a copy of the Sanborn Map for Phoenix for l889, 1890, and 1893. The stamp on the maps indicate I got them through the Library of Congress however there may be duplicates at the Arizona State Capitol Library. Regards, Gregory E. Davis
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:18 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#22) 03-17-2009, 04:06 PM Cubfan64 Really interesting stuff Ozarker I've only casually looked through some of those records online and my eyes get fuzzy trying to read some of them after only 15 minutes - I can hardly imagine the work involved going through everything you did I thought with all th...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:17 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Phillips Leggat Confectionary

(#21) 03-17-2009, 08:28 AM Ozarker Subject: Phillips Leggat Confectionary Some of this information has already been touched on, but it's important to assemble and place it here to complement the information on Julia's store across the street. On 25 March 1891, a little over two months before Julia ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:13 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Previous Researchers

(#20) 03-17-2009, 02:23 AM Novice Subject: Previous Researchers Previous researchers, working on the location of Julia's business, certainly receive a lot of sympathy from me Julia's lease has been available to researchers for a long time (Lease Book 2, Page 132). Greg Davis has shared it and even ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:11 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Julia's New Lease

(#19) 03-16-2009, 05:06 PM Ozarker Subject: Julia's New Lease Toward the end of 1889, Lofus Goodrich executed a new lease for the restaurant in the Capitol Building, formerly leased by Joe Gunn and Jim Lee, to a man named Charley Sam ( Lease Book 2 Page 101 ). Charley Sam, like Joe Gunn and Jim Lee...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 12:07 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Capitol Building History

(# Eighteen) 03-16-2009, 04:07 PM Ozarker Subject: Capitol Building History To understand how Julia Thomas came to lease the store in the Capitol Building, it's probably necessary to back up a bit and cover some its earlier history. When the Town of Phoenix was first established, town lots were set ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:57 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

True.....

(#17) 03-16-2009, 04:04 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: True...... Garry, That's a true comment, but I didn't say that it has always been accepted as a fact. I said it is accepted fact...... . Perhaps it is not so well accepted, but that is the impression that I get whenever we discuss things, like the Fra...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:56 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Accepted Fact

(#16) 03-16-2009, 02:38 PM Novice Subject: Accepted Fact Joe, Quote: You wrote: “It is well accepted that Waltz died in Julia's shop. Without your work, there would have never been any question of that fact .” I would put it a little differently. It was a well accepted fact for over 100 years that ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:54 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Das Picture.....

(#15) 03-16-2009, 12:52 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Das Picture...... Larry, Because of the date on the lease, the picture showing the door into the back and the map, it seems likely that Emil is not the man pictured in the photo. If it were Emil, the door would be towards the center of the room, not o...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:52 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

The Thomas Confectionary

(#14) 03-16-2009, 11:46 AM Ozarker Subject: The Thomas Confectionary All: This is an excerpt of the November 1890 Sanborn map, enlarged to show Block 20 where the store of Julia and Emil Thomas was located. The store fronted south on Washington Street, between Montezuma (First Street) and Mariocpa (...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:49 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Perspective

(#13) 03-16-2009, 11:17 AM Ozarker Subject: Perspective Hello Joe: I've studied the photo of the store (and the people) in both books, and couldn't come to any definite conclusions either. I agree that the map of the store leased by Julia in the Capitol Building appears to be a better match to the ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:46 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

What Do It Mean????

(#12) 03-16-2009, 11:13 AM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: What Do It Mean???? Paul, For me, the implications are: If Larry's location and map are correct, and I believe it is, it means there was no storeroom at the back of Julia's shop. It follows, that many of the stories that relate the details of what took...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:44 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#11) 03-16-2009, 09:49 AM Cubfan64 Ahh, I was confused. Yes the implication of the story is that Mrs. Holmes was there. To be honest, I don't think we'll ever really know EXACTLY WHO WAS THERE during that whole mess. Nevertheless, I don't want to derail Ozarker's thread anymore than I already have...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:42 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Hell, I was there......wasn't I???

(#10) 03-16-2009, 09:02 AM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Hell, I was there .......wasn't I??? Paul, Since Slim stated that his story came from Mrs. Holmes, he was only repeating the tale from what he considered a reliable source. If he is not embellishing or even fabricating a story he heard from another so...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:40 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

(#9) 03-16-2009, 08:10 AM Cubfan64 Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe_Ribaudo) “Hi Garry, Hope you and the missus are doing well. Ely got a number of things wrong. The story of where Waltz died, and what took place at that time, came from Julia and Rhiney themselves. He was not in Phoenix when she ha...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:39 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Wrong.....

(#8) 03-16-2009, 07:39 AM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Wrong...... Hi Garry, Hope you and the missus are doing well. Ely got a number of things wrong. The story of where Waltz died, and what took place at that time, came from Julia and Rhiney themselves. He was not in Phoenix when she had her shop. Paul, I...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:38 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Great Work

(#7) 03-16-2009, 05:56 AM Novice Subject: Great Work Larry, I want to echo Joe's sentiments of a nice job. I know this has taken weeks of work and the review of literally hundreds of deed records. It will be interesting to see where your research leads. Joe, I admire your loyalty to Ely but it seem...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:36 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

Slim Kite Interview

(#6) 03-15-2009, 10:31 PM Cubfan64 Subject: Slim Kite interview... [Note: For clarity, I have reformatted this post by Cubfan to separate the statements made by Slim Kite and the interviewer. No changes were made to the actual content of the post] For what it's worth, a couple months ago Roger and ...
by Ozarker
Mon May 25, 2009 11:31 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Location of Julia Thomas Business 1891
Replies: 64
Views: 75914

What Really Happened.....

(#5) 03-15-2009, 08:30 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: What Really Happened...... Larry, That was fine bit of detective work. I have always doubted the newer versions of the circumstances surrounding Jacob Waltz and his last days. I know these stories have always been there, but I have always had a problem...