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- Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:38 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
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Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Now Joe, The Monte Cristo doesn't fit the description of the Lost Padres Mine. The Monte Cristo as we know it didn't get going until the late 1880s. If there was another hardrock mine there prior to that, there is no proof that I know of. There are another set of very old mines that fit better, and ...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:25 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Joe, You were absolutely right. There are several old hardrock mines in the San Gabriel Mountains. None of them are very close to the East or North Forks of the San Gabriel River. The East Fork is where all the hydraulic mining was done. Access to many of the hardrock mines is restricted due to wild...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:10 pm
- Forum: First Amendment Forum
- Topic: Caption this picture
- Replies: 4
- Views: 18115
Re: Caption this picture
HEY! Where da white women at?
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:59 pm
- Forum: Non LDM Lost Treasure, Mines, Old West, etc
- Topic: Chuck Kenworthy Info Based Monument Trail
- Replies: 4
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Chuck Kenworthy Info Based Monument Trail
Okay, I keep seeing people posting on different forums about how Chuck Kenworthy did this or that for this or that motive. They didn't know the man, and know very little about him period. Some people say that he made up all the symbols in his books. I am here to say this is not true (or if it is, I ...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:20 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
One other thing: CK was not a treasure hunting philanthropist. He was in it for the money. Plain and simple. If the knowledge base of mankind was enhanced, then all the better, but he was in it for the money. By my understanding of how things happened, he spent an awful lot of money bribing archivis...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:35 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Joe, Yer killin' me! By the late 1960s-early 1970s Chuck Kenworthy was a Southern California Real Estate Multimillionaire. Someone would have to prove to me that ALL of his books netted him more than a few thousand dollars. What 99.9% of people don't realize is that all those book...
- Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:16 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
.....uuuuhhh ..... that should read "Northwest of there"
Mike
Mike
- Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:59 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Joe, Thanks for that. I have been up both East and North Forks more times than I can count, and have only found one or two exploration holes (about 10-20 feet deep). Check your book if you don't mind for a time frame on those hardrock mines. The oldest one I can find mention of was opened in 1870. M...
- Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:05 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Jim, There were no hardrock mines along the San Gabriel River. It was all hydraulics, sluicing, and panning. Trust me, I live about five minutes from Azusa Canyon/San Gabriel River. The Bradshaws are another story, but I doubt he dragged a bunch of gold ore INTO the Supers to cache it. Remember what...
- Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:26 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
PS
My avatar here is of one of the gold bars from that cache.
Mike
My avatar here is of one of the gold bars from that cache.
Mike
- Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:21 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Azmula, Thanks for the reference to my website. To anyone that doesn't know me from TNet or DUSA, those are the places I am called Gollum. I had planned on using it everywhere, but it was already used in a couple of places, so I used my real name (here for one). Although I have never been shy about ...
- Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:09 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Hey Garry, No, I haven't fleshed out the whole thing yet. They could have been found at Queen Creek, or they could have been pulled from the floor of the Arizpe Mission. Honestly, to me, if the maps are of Jesuit origin, then the Arizpe Mission origin makes the most sense. I can't REALLY say, though...
- Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:43 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
.No matter what the relatives say, Azmula's Theory (from his article), still seems to hold water for me. Here's why (Letter from Mel Brower to Richard Peck): The first quote is in answer to the family email that stated unequivocally that Travis had never searched in the mountains to solve the maps. ...
- Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:55 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
- Replies: 149
- Views: 231198
Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
The Jesuit Order was suppressed for (primarily) one of two possibilities: 1. As some would have us believe that the Jesuits were set up as bad guys by those that didn't like the power, influence, and wealth they had accrued. 2. ..........and this is the real reason, as Azmula stated, the Bourbon Kin...
- Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:27 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
thank you mike; for bringing it to my attention i am still dyslexic. since joe has claimed to have spoken to susan, that you get the full run up from him, on all my peculiarities... just because i can not spell, does not mean i am not intelligent or informed about the history of the southwest... ju...
- Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:44 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
Pip, Just a small detail, but they were called "visitas" not "vistas". A visita was under the auspices of a particular mission (hence "visita Tumacacori"). It was a place controlled and visited by the Father of the Mission responsible for its' visita. A place might get ...
- Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:42 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
PIP, I agree completely. Alan, What he meant was that he doesn't really care one way or another (as in "I don't have a horse in that race"). Now, if you are just referring to the part of the story about deciphering the H/P Stone to find the others, then it is a possibility that Mitchell ma...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:51 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
Also,
If you believe that the Latin Heart is authentic, then you had better reassess you theory, as the Latin Heart was supposedly found right near where the others were supposedly found.
Mike
If you believe that the Latin Heart is authentic, then you had better reassess you theory, as the Latin Heart was supposedly found right near where the others were supposedly found.
Mike
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:48 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
Alan, I just corrected your opinion that Clarence Mitchell made up the story. It was around MANY years before Mitchell came into the story. If it was BS, then why would he lie to his uncle? Even go so far as to draw him a map to the bogus find location? His uncle had the maps for some years and alon...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:26 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
Sorry Alan, But that story is what Travis told to his uncle Robert in 1949. Travis even drew Robert a map showing exactly where he found them. It is also the same story Travis told to his friends that knew about the stones when he had them. Believe what you want, but you should base your beliefs on ...
- Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:43 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
According to the interview with one of Travis' Friends, he had hunted arrowheads in that same area previously.
Mike
Mike
- Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:17 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Stone Maps
- Replies: 922
- Views: 834033
Re: The Stone Maps
I still hold to my thoughts that the Stone Maps were made by Jesuits, and if there was anything on them that said "St Francis Xavier" "IHS" "Jesuit" or anything else of the like, I would consider it proof against their authenticity. If they were indeed made by Jesuits t...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:25 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Mike, "Then about a year ago, someone using the names of Jan & redison & Ray tucker (all I assume to be the same person) started posting a lot of information and pictures I had shared via e-mail with other people (too damn many to track back to their sources) on the Lost Dutchman Websi...
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:33 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Jim didn't want me to share this at the time, but now I guess it would be okay. It might give some an idea why he was how he was. Mike For about 2 years following, my email was clogged with comments from people from both sides of the argument, the majority of which were from the side that believed t...
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:42 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
- Replies: 111
- Views: 134097
Re: The Lost Dutchman Mine: Does it exist?
Sorry Mike, My memory is not getting any better. I seem to recall that you told me you had never, personally, been in the Supes'. That puts your opinions in an entirely different light. Take care, Joe Joe, I apologize. I did, at one time, tell everyone that I had never been in the Supers. At the ti...