Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Knun, Interesting question, and I must say a pleasant diversion this morning. For me a central issue is would one be going back as a “fly-on-the-wall” or as an active participant. If as a “fly-on-the-wall” I would choose the night Waltz dies. Unlike some others I believe that Waltz did try to give i...

49er, There are at least three museums of which I know that would have a special interest in letters from or to Sims Ely. One of the questions you need to ask yourself is whether or not you would want them available for research, as one of them does not have good research access. Other questions are...

Rochha, Here is a link to the Hayden file on Miguel Peralta. It contains references to both his mining in the Black Canyon area and to his time in Wickenburg as a merchant. It is a PDF file and so you need Acrobat Reader to access it. http://info.lib.asu.edu/archives/azbio/peraltam.pdf If you do not...

In Miller’s "Arizona the Last Frontier" (thanks Joe) there is an account written from a reporter in Goldfield in 1893 that refers to old mines. It reads: “… It is important, however, that unwritten history points to the fact that there was mining for gold done in the Superstitions a hundre...

Joe, Awhile back you lavished complements on a few of us. Your remarks were kind and it would be ungracious not to thank you. But, I fear those comments may be misplaced. There are many both in the Dutchman community at large and on this forum in particular that should be included in any such commen...

Joe,

Sorry, but I am not familiar with the report of First Lt. K. Geer. Can you elaborate?

Another Starar-Waltz-Mexican connection is that in the 1870 census both the Starars and Waltz each have a Peralta living with them, and they are the only ones (as I recall) who have a Peralta.

Thomas

I cannot say what the derivation of the spelling of the name Starrar is. The name "Starrar" is one found in some European countries. I have seen the name spelt various ways making it somewhat challenging to research. However, I believe the correct spelling (at least as far as Andrew and Ja...

Re: Charles Starr,

Does anyone have information on when or where he was born? Or when he died? There is a Charles Starr listed in the Arizona death records who was born in 1853 and died in 1914. Could this be OUR Charles Starr?

Aurum, Thanks for some clarification on this issue. I did find the Young cemetery and looked long and hard for Charles Starr. I did not find him, but that means little as so many of the old graves have lost their markings. Did find graves of the Grahams and others from the Feud/Range War. Young is a...

Does anyone have any information on Charlie Starr? I was re-reading my Starrar file and in a publication on the Pleasant Valley War there was a reference to a Charles Starr. The book stated that he was related to Andrew and Jacob Starrar, but he always left the “ar” off the end of his name spelling ...

Back to the Ortega murder, I am doing a bit of experimenting with the parameters of that event of which I am reasonably certain. Does anyone have any idea of what Waltz’s house was like? One door I assume, correct? How about the number of rooms or the size of it? Just where was Ortega's body found i...

As we enjoy our various bounties this holiday season, let us not forget the reason for the season.

To all I wish a rewarding and safe holiday.

Aurum has made what I consider a very true and accurate statement in other topics; that is that we all come to the Dutchman search down different paths. What the search means to each of us, how we approach it, and such is different for us one from another. For many the meaning of the search even cha...

Gentleman, Perhaps I use the term loosely, perhaps just the opposite. FYI – the second printing of the book is now out. I did not include enough new material for me in good conscious to call it a second edition. I had wanted to include more new information, but time and circumstances precluded me do...

In the newspaper reports of the Ortega killing it says the killing was done with Waltz’s shotgun. Does anyone have information on Waltz’s shotgun? Was it a short barreled coach gun or long barreled one?

Sorry. No zeal here. Nothing has happened. Just passing on useful info. for those that have ears to hear.

First, a general comment from me – please take computer security seriously, you need an antivirus component and a firewall at a minimum. The firewall I use is called ZoneAlarm. I choose it as it can be downloaded for free and was recommended by someone of the MACEP list: http://www.zonelabs.com/stor...

Another cloudy morning… There has been a discussion on a list serve (the MACEP list serve) to which I subscribe about Spyware on computers. It seems that it is a wide spread problem and since all of us on this discussion board use computers, and since one can assume that most or all of us are sensit...

Joe, Converse logic means starting from a firm conclusion and working backward fitting the known facts to the conclusion. (As opposed to taking the known facts and constructing a conclusion based on them.) In the end to no one’s surprise in converse logic the “facts” support or fit the conclusion. I...

Joe,

The answer to your question is: Yes

Peter,

Nothing like converse logic to keep one feeling good.

It would seem that in the end the faith one has in a set of clues is whether or not they match one’s own work. Does this mean that one is starting from a firm conclusion and then accepting those clues that fit with what one already believes? I have had some years to work on the German Clues and I do...

I have only lightly been following this thread, so pardon if I ask a question or address something that has already been discussed. A central question is always what gives credence to certain clues. What is it – if anything – that gives particular credence to “The German clues”?

Joe, They cost me something like $44 directly from the National Archives. If the current administratino has outsourced such items to private vedors so that they go from around $50 to over $700 that is obscene. NO the are not worth it. Why? Because several of the maps are mostly blank paper; you can ...

To return to the subject at hand, the issue is not one related to one’s web browser (unless one is using it for email too). The question is related to the email application one is using. Some email apps (probably most) allow for a right click and the Save As option the same as if one were on the wor...

Both are very good suggestions. But, first I was only sharing a bit of info I thought others might find useful. In my case my scanner is in Oregon and when one right clicks on some graphics inbedded in emails one does not get the option Save As. .......