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by alan m
Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:39 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

As a continuance of my previous post The instigator of the 1751 Pima Rebellion was Luis Oacpicagigua, he along with few other supporters gatherd together to drive the Jesuits out of the Pimaria Alta. The reason was the Jesuit suppression of the Pima native dances and festivals, as well as thier long...
by alan m
Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:10 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

Hello to all According to Nentvig, no one was aware of what was comming, the Jesuits were told to meet at Matape by the porvincial, or some other Jesuit of ranking authority. If any of the Jesuit order saw the arrest comming it woud have been those in the higher ranks who were isolated and did not h...
by alan m
Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:31 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

Hello Mike We agree! The 8-N-P could mean places,such as markers of something else. I have focused a lot of attention to the horse/priest tablet and think that it could have been cut to fit into something like a crypt or monument, the angle cuts and the tappering is most unusual. The 1847 date, if i...
by alan m
Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:48 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello Somehiker I think we could play this game of trying to figure out whats real and what is not all day long. My opinion is that travis added nothing to the tablets, all he had to do was say that he did, it would accomplish the exact same thing. People would doubt what they concluded. I ask one q...
by alan m
Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:29 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello Mike
You are right about putting faith in anything found on the tablets, especially after Clarence Mitchell possesed them for a time , however, the conversion works!
Is it a coincidence? :roll:
Best allways
Alan
by alan m
Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:22 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

Thank-you Joe I need to post a correction to my last It was the name "Jack" not Frank that Clarence Mitchell gave for Travis Tumlinson. I should add some more info to my last also My initial decoding of the tablets has led me to an old Spanish base camp, some photos I have previously poste...
by alan m
Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:02 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

Hello Mike I have a copy of Superstition Treasures and in it Clarence states that the 8-N-P were key symbols used in locating the remaining tablets. Do you believe that these symbols are for that purpose? I did some calculations and it seems that if given an average distance of 3 feet per pace, the ...
by alan m
Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:30 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 858767

Re: The Stone Maps

Hello Joe In response to your initial question as to why there are only the three stones displayed on the bumper of Tumlinsons car and no sign of the Horse Priest tablet. This appears to me to indicate that Travis did not find the horse/priest tablet or have it with him when he found the remaining t...
by alan m
Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:49 pm
Forum: Non LDM Lost Treasure, Mines, Old West, etc
Topic: CALALUS
Replies: 231
Views: 344871

Re: CALALUS

Hello Oroblanco Thank-you for the tip and source for further study, I will pursue it. You are much more knowlegable in geology than I am and I appreciate the response. I knw that the superstitions did not form during the cambrian period but I thought it may have been possible for the upthrust of the...
by alan m
Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:20 pm
Forum: Non LDM Lost Treasure, Mines, Old West, etc
Topic: CALALUS
Replies: 231
Views: 344871

Re: CALALUS

Hello I may have some ideas to add to this discussion and please correct me if I error. Most gold deposits in main bearing rock were formed during the Cambian period about 600 Million years ago Except those formed as you have described, the thermal vents are usually found in and around the "rin...
by alan m
Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:08 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: I Wonder
Replies: 15
Views: 17163

Re: I Wonder

Hello Ronn You pose a good question and I am sure that you will get different opinions as to the existance of the Lost Dutchman Mine. Here are some FACTS to ponder and so you know I do believe that the LDM exist, at least in principle, to clarify, Waltz is reported to have said that "no miner w...
by alan m
Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:08 pm
Forum: Non LDM Lost Treasure, Mines, Old West, etc
Topic: Jesuit Waybill
Replies: 5
Views: 14307

Re: Jesuit Waybill

Hello I am going to provide some of the technique I use to decipher this letter. My disclaimer is that I do not know if this method is correct and do not profess that I have discovered or solved anything, it is just a curiosity in the way that more information and relationships become apparent. This...
by alan m
Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:01 pm
Forum: Non LDM Lost Treasure, Mines, Old West, etc
Topic: Jesuit Waybill
Replies: 5
Views: 14307

Jesuit Waybill

I came across an interesting story about a Jesuit treasure that I would like to share In Bolivia in 1903, Dona Corina San Roman describes a letter that her uncle, the Reverend Father San Roman had given her father. The letter is as follows; 1; If you come upon a steep, densely wooded hill with a fla...
by alan m
Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:28 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Kino's Gold the LDM?
Replies: 31
Views: 32510

Re: Kino's Gold the LDM?

Hello Joe
I have about 5 suitcases of notes, booklets and maps. I know its in one of them.
If I can track it down I will pass the info on to you.
Best Regards
Alan
by alan m
Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:50 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello Mike The 934 pounds figure is a typing error, it should be 924.6 If you place the heart stone into the heart cavity so that the six zero's can be seen, it forms the number 1000000, reading the whole upper tablet results in 1000000 R The letter R comming from the upper right hand corner. Taking...
by alan m
Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:13 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Kino's Gold the LDM?
Replies: 31
Views: 32510

Re: Kino's Gold the LDM?

Hello The story of the cross on Weavers Needle has had me chasing my tail for a few years now. I checked the sources listed by Curt Gentry,"Apache Gold and Yaqui Silver" and found no mention of a cross or Weavers Needle, I also checked his second source which was Sims Ely's book and again ...
by alan m
Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:00 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello The evidence for mining activity comes from James Bark, Sims Ely, and Barry Storm. Tom Kollenborn has confirmed many of these. The mesquite stumps on horse mesa, the arrastras at Aylors camp along with the charcoal kilns. Then there is the man made water system on top of Bluff Springs Mountain...
by alan m
Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:01 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Just a thought
Replies: 8
Views: 9220

Re: Just a thought

Mike Thank-you for the info, you should write a book, I would buy it. There is a lot of information that you provide that I have not seen in any of the books I've read. I can see how a story such as the one about the alibaster cross on Weavers Needle can snowball. It seems that it was a fabrication ...
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:53 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Kino's Gold the LDM?
Replies: 31
Views: 32510

Re: Kino's Gold the LDM?

Mike
I will go through my research notes and find the source of my information on Rapicanni.
As for the book Dead Padres and Gold I have been searching for that book for years.
Best Regards
Alan
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:49 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello Mike Yea 1790 does not work very well, but there were some Jesuits who were not banished in 1767, namely the ones in California. It seems that any Jesuits who would have escaped being captured would have made for California. But I admit that it is a weak argument. The extensive trail markers i...
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:09 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Just a thought
Replies: 8
Views: 9220

Re: Just a thought

Mike Just for a moment What if he did'nt find them at Queen Creek but knew that they pertained to the Superstitons because of the progress he made in deciphering them? This would imply that he had some additional information that he never revealed, perhaps there were additional pieces to the Horse/P...
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:04 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Just a thought
Replies: 8
Views: 9220

Re: Just a thought

Mike I think we should form a Jesuit treasure hunters club, or at least a library! I have a story for you about a Jesuit treasure in South America, it is described in a letter written by a Jesuit and it is as follows; oops I can't attach the file, well anyway it describes a statue of solid gold hidd...
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:49 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Kino's Gold the LDM?
Replies: 31
Views: 32510

Re: Kino's Gold the LDM?

Hello Mike I suspect that the story about the alibaster cross is fictional, however there was room for doubt and I wanted to cover all bases as much as possible. One of Kino's diaries is missing along with his astrolabe and according to Jacobo Sedylmayer; entradas were taken into the mountains north...
by alan m
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:24 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson
Replies: 42
Views: 42315

Re: Travis Tumlinson

Hello Mike You and I share an obsession! I am in total agreement that the tablets should not have been found together, just a couple of monsoon seasons in Arizona will convince anyone that the tablets should have ben spread out and washed away long ago. I recall however that the stone crosses and th...
by alan m
Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:15 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Kino's Gold the LDM?
Replies: 31
Views: 32510

Re: Kino's Gold the LDM?

At least someone will carry you out,
they will leave me lying there and take the gold :lol: