Lost Dutchman Goldmine

(#54)

03-22-2009, 04:58 PM
Joe_Ribaudo
Subject: Outhouse.....

Larry,

I can see where the bldg. I was talking about could be an outhouse. It's very small.

Thanks for your reply.

Take care,

Joe

(#53) 03-22-2009, 04:40 PM Ozarker Subject: Outhouses Hello Joe: Each of the store owners in the Capitol Building (the restaurant, saloon, cigar shop, and barber/baths) had community privileges to the yard and the outbuildings in the rear which contained the outhouse and well, and later on a boiler...

(#52) 03-22-2009, 02:36 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Adobe Room.... Larry, In reading Dr. Glover's account, I notice that he writes: "Waltz was in a small adobe room behind the parlor itself." I will check out "Road to Yesterday" and see what Frank actually said.....assuming he said ...

(#51) 03-22-2009, 12:24 PM Qzarker Subject: Alkire Manuscripts Hello Joe: Thanks for the history on Frank and Asenath. I have not read "The Little Lady of the Triangle Bar", but have seen excerpts and reviews. In his bibliography, Dr Glover refers to an unpublished manuscript by Frank Alk...

(#50) 03-22-2009, 11:09 AM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Alkire..... Larry, Frank, and Asenath, as far as I know, were on their ranch until 1903. Frank's first attempt at ranching was in the Tonto Basin, where he built a cabin which was later acquired by Zane Gray as a wilderness home. The high cost of stoc...

(#49) 03-22-2009, 08:23 AM Ozarker Subject: Alkire Dry Goods and Clothing Company There are various accounts indicating that Frank Alkire was witness to the events at Julia's store the evening before Jacob Waltz's death. One version of the account relates that Frank Alkire and Dick Holmes were empl...

(# Forty-eight) 03-20-2009, 07:30 AM Ozarker Subject: Pierce Butler and Sarah Pimm Hello All: For the two-year period of 1888 to 1890, Pierce "Ben" Butler had a partner in the saloon business named Sarah Pimm. Sarah only appeared on one lease for the saloon (January 1888 to January 1890),...

(#47) 03-20-2009, 06:34 AM Ozarker Subject: Block 20 Occupants in 1891 Hello All: This is an excerpt of the November 1890 Sanborn Map, enlarged to show the detail in Block 20 and annotated to show occupants of the ground floor stores facing Washington Street in 1891. Across the street (south side o...

(#46)

03-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Gregory E. Davis

Hello Larry: Would it be possible for you to do another Sanborn Map listing the identification of the business for block 20 showing the people on Washington St. who surrounded the bakery run by Emil and Julia? Cordially, Gregory E. Davis

(#45) 03-19-2009, 08:14 PM Ozarker Subject: Block 22 Occupants in 1891 Hello All: This is an excerpt of the November 1890 Sanborn Map, enlarged to show the detail in Block 22 and annotated to show the occupants of the stores at the time of Julia's tenancy. As in my previous post, only the occupants...

(#44) 03-19-2009, 08:12 PM Ozarker Subject: Block 21 Occupants in 1891 Hello All: This is an excerpt of the November 1890 Sanborn Map, enlarged to show the detail in Block 21 and annotated to show the occupants of the stores at the time of Julia's tenancy. Only the occupants of the stores facing Wa...

(#43) 03-19-2009, 02:06 PM Ozarker Subject: Julia's Old Store Wayne: Thanks for the Thayer history and the photo. It's too bad the recessed part of the building is in shadow (the area behind the white horse's head), as that is about where Julia and Emil's old store would have been located. If the d...

(#42) 03-19-2009, 01:27 PM zentull I am sure Larry will get around to the other stores and other notables on the North side of Washington as time goes, but this was one of those weird incidental things that always creeps up on you. http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8426/formerthomasstore1890ze.jpg...

(#41) 03-19-2009, 12:05 PM Gregory E. Davis Yes Roger, I am following this thread very close and copies are being added to the Thomas file. One cannot always rely on the index to these records. Some are missed and it requires one to go through the original record books. I have found a number of cas...

(#40) 03-19-2009, 09:15 AM Roger Subject: Location of Julia's Stores Larry, The detailed data you posted is probably a little "dry" as you said, but such is what one has to do a lot of in researching the LDM and early Phoenix history. Searching old records is not like reading adventure bo...

(#39) 03-19-2009, 08:59 AM Ozarker Subject: The Facts dutchman dave: Thanks for the Emil Ganz history. It sounds like Ganz led an interesting life, both in and out of Phoenix. All: It was pointed out to me that I made an error in post Number 14. In the text of my post, I should have stated that the...

(# Thirty-eight) 03-18-2009, 03:55 PM dutchman dave Subject: Ganz Dont know where this might fit in but found this about emil ganz on a internet sight about the ganz family of phoenix. “Emil Ganz was born in 1838 in the small town of Walldorf, Germany. Pry believes he immigrated to the United State...

(#37) 03-18-2009, 03:26 PM Roger Subject: 1891 Gold Prices Joe, You are correct - the price of gold for the year of 1891 was $20.67. That would make the total gold value from Waltz at $8,433 which would leave Dick Holmes with $3,633 in gold after selling $4,800 of it. Still not a bad sum for the 18...

(#36) 03-18-2009, 02:49 PM Ozarker Subject: Ganz and the Cotten Block The 1933 account by Rhiney, cited by Roger in his previous post, also contains the following passage on page 140: "Waltz told me to break the gold out of the rock best I could and sell it at Ganz's store across from the cott...

(#35) 03-18-2009, 02:23 PM Ozarker Subject: 1891 Roger: My review of the county records revealed nobody named Archer as either a lessor or lessee for any business located on Washington Street between Cortes (1st Avenue) and Maricopa (2nd Street). This encompassed the blocks on both sides of Washing...

(#34)

03-18-2009, 01:28 PM
zentull

Joe,

1933 at Riverside park

(#33) 03-18-2009, 01:26 PM zentull Roger posted: “Helen also writes the following information of what happened after Waltz died on Page 137 - 138 which came from the Roberts family history: Walt's body was taken to Julia's home to be prepared for burial, a common practice in that era. Several frien...

(#32) 03-18-2009, 01:03 PM Joe_Ribaudo Subject: Bertie Roberts...... Roger, Thanks for that refresher course. Anything older than ten minutes ago is lost to my memory banks. The one thing I am sure of, is that Bertie Roberts is as good as it gets. Was there a date for that interview? You would think...

(#31) 03-18-2009, 12:07 PM Roger Subject: Rhinehart Petrasch's Info on Julia's Store Helen Corbin includes in her book, The Bible, on Pages 138 - 140, a narrative that Rhiney Petrasch had WRITTEN DOWN and TOLD to Bertie Roberts. Here are some details pertaining to Julia's store and where Waltz resi...

(#30) 03-18-2009, 10:53 AM Ozarker Subject: Dorris Cash Grocery and Street Addresses To add to Zentull's post, the JW Dorris store shown in the photo was known as the Dorris Cash Grocery, and was located in Block 20, opposite the old City Hall and very close to the former store of Julia and Emil Th...