Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Garry,

I hope you noticed that I referred her to your website! HAHAHA

Mike

Garry, Going back through my correspondences, my source just asked that I not reveal her contact information, or how I found her, so that I will not do, but I will say now that my source is/was Janie Tumlinson. Our conversation happened about two months ago. That is how I found out about what type o...

Also,

I am glad that you support Garry's Research as much as I do, but you did not address any of the questions I asked. If a person is to believe that Travis Tumlinson hoaxed the stone maps, then those questions need to answered. Wouldn't you agree?

Mike

Joe, I have still never put any real effort into solving the stone maps. If I lived closer, then maybe I would have, but there are a lot of deserts and mountains between here and there. LOL I didn't really need the speech because I have absolute faith in that if Garry says it was said to him, then i...

Okay, Here are some excerpts from a conversation of about two months ago: [You] Report · 1:15am Absolutely. There are a lot of people that claim that the stone maps are a hoax and Travis was part of it. I have always said that a person's actions speak volumes, and Travis' actions were not those of s...

Garry, Your research is always above reproach, BUUUUUUT, as the President said to the General in the movie "The Fifth Element" : "I HAVE A DOUBT." Janie was very young when her dad passed away in 1961. Even much younger when he was actively pursuing the stone maps. I have a very ...

Great pictures Joe,

Looks like a good time. Happy Anniversary to Tom as well.

Best-Mike

hummm. dirteatintreehuggindruids to the rescue... was out in that area yesterday... just watched the mountains for a few hours...too much smog...too many houses... the mine will be found by some neanderthal construction worker digging a water line for some new subdivision....Wilderness Acres, a gat...

Joe, As I have said many times before, I don't think anybody will ever find the DLM based on ANY book (no matter how accurate or inaccurate). My bet is (as always) on some tree hugging nature lover who will be out to get a good pic of some natural feature, when his leg drops through the roof of the ...

Hello Mike Could you cite the references for the evidence in the existance of Waltz nephew? In my opinion the Holmes manuscript is weak and Sims Ely's account is weaker still. Best Regards Alan Alan I think you have it bassackwards if you think for a second that the Holmes Manuscript is even slight...

Randy, I am not certain about typical gold values for AZ, but there are some places in Ca (Feather River for one) where raw nuggets are almost 100% pure. Mostly in SoCal it runs about 70% gold, 15% silver, 10% copper, and 5% other. Also, we can't work the problem of how the pit was discovered like a...

alan m wrote:Hello
Just a quick question
How can the chain of custody evidence be unbroken or above scrutiny if it is secret?
Best
Alan

Simple:

They asked me not to name them publicly yet. When the time comes, everything will be completely open for anybody to look at.

Mike

Oh, and since the whole manifest fiasco, I have to admit that technically, there is just as much hard evidence for the existence of a nephew Jacob Weiss (Weiser) as there is for a partner/friend Jacob Weiser. I still tend to lean towards the Sims Ely version. He seemed to place some importance to th...

Garry, I put what stock I do in Sims Ely's Book simply because his is a personal narrative that was closer to the subject than anything else out there. Most everything else out there draws from his book or flies in the face of it. If we had something like it that was admitted to be from Dick Holmes,...

Garry, I just got home and verified my previous statement. In Sims Ely's "The Lost Dutchman Mine" on pages 46-47: Thereupon I closed the office door firmly, we lighted fresh cigars, and Tom Weedin told, while I (Sims Ely) listened with rapt attention, the story of Jacob Weiser's fate. Best...

Gee Paul, you could have at least have corrected my spelling of Dannemann! You will notice that in Corbin’s manifest, many of the immigrants were from Horb Wurttemberg and Nagold, Wurttemberg. Waltz was supposedly from Horb and Nagold??. I believe all of these entries were in support of the Waltz o...

I am with Joe here. I have to move from here to find what other stories and "facts" I now have to question, and how/if they affect any theories I have formed.

A crappy situation indeed. Everybody say Thank You to the nice man that made all this possible! LOL

Mike

Garry, The passengers in the manifest in Corbin's Book were taken from more than one actual manifest in the ISTG Archives. What Paul found was one of the sources the hoaxster used to get blocks of data. The way the hoaxster played with the information makes it so you can't use last names for compari...

The closest individual match I saw at a glance was: 1. Elise Muller (ISTG) / Elise Mueller (Book Manifest) The blocks of names from cities were reversed and the last names changed. Just enough work so that individual duplicate names could not be found using the search engine on the website, but a cl...

Just another nail in the coffin here. I had rightly assumed that if HC or "he who must not be named" had already gotten that manifest from the ISTG, that the ISTG would have a record of it, and a copy should be readily available. So, I wrote an email to the number two person at ISTG and th...

Joe, You are absolutely right. There are some stories that I have believed that are now called into question. Namely the Sergeant Edwards story about finding the bones at the Massacre Grounds, including the skeleton dressed in western garb with the poke bag of rich ore. I believe that whole crop of ...

While it is always more fun and exciting to conclusively prove what you like, but it is equally (if not more) important to disprove frauds. Think how much time, resources, and money was wasted on Baron Reavis. I don't think any expeditions were launched on account of this person's documents, but loo...

AWESOME PAUL! That is exactly what I was looking for. I hadn't made it to 1846 yet. I knew if this was a hoax, that whomever would have done the hoaxing would not have just made up the whole thing. Laziness will get you busted every time. That's why I was looking for blocks of information that match...

Joe, Carrying this on from Tom Glover's post. I spent a couple of hours on the ISTG Website scouring passenger lists, going through ships' manifests one at a time trying to find individuals and blocks of information that were duplicates of the information on the manifest in Corbin's Book. I did not ...

I've been through about half the manifest and haven't found a double yet.

Hey Joe, maybe this conversation would be better added to the old thread instead of hijacking Dr Glover's thread which has very little to do with this.

Mike/