Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Gene:

Can you provide a description of the Peralta book? What size, hard bound, leather cover, cover color, Spanish or English, etc? Was there any additional title on the inside title page versus just "Peralta" on the cover? Any author listed?

Thanks for any inputs on this.

Roger

For those of you that would like to get a copy of "Arizona Cowboys" by Coolidge, go to the following web site and enter the book name for a search. There are 87 copies for sale ranging in price from $3.50 for the 1984 paperback in good condition to $200.00 for a very good copy of the 1938 ...

Bob Ward talks about a "Knife Hill" in his book, "Ripples of Lost Echos". Bob takes the reader through a trip up Peralta Canyon following what he claims are "Stone Map Clues". On page 80, he claims that "The hillwhhich you have reached is known as Knife Hill becaus...

Rochha, I have found one map that shows all the Arizona military forts and their connecting trails as of the early 1880's plus a state map of that era showing all the military forts and camps, mining communities, stage stations, riverboat landings and their connecting trails plus the railroads. This...

There is only one reference to a "Sun Sign" per Kenworhty's descriptions that I have found associated with the Superstitions. In the full version hardcover of Bary Storm's book, Thunder Gods Gold (1945/1946). there are 96 "Notes of Authenticity" at the end of the book. Note 31 on...

The Superstition Mountain Historical Society sells a small book written in 1945 by Al Lewis titled "Saga of Superstition Mountains" for $3.50 when I bought a copy in the mid 90's. The 18 page book spins a historical narriative on what happened in the Peralta massacre, the history of mining...

I have spent some time tracking down Eugene Lyon who did the Seville archives searching for Mel Fisher and who Kenworhty told me he had used to get some Spanish archives information - possibly the map making rules. I have located Eugene in Florida where he has just been elected to the position of Pr...

While doing LDM research, I found an article in the Arizona State Library published by The Arizona Times, Volume 4 - No. 10, titled "Mystery Map Leads to Bruderlin Mine". The article covers Bruderlin's story and has a copy of the map he claims would lead to te "Mountain of Shafts"...

I have missed a few posting over time. I did see some regarding a way to post pictures for the members. Is that set up and were is it?

Roger

I have been on this Forum for several years. By and large the members have displayed a good decorum in terms of language and content although we tend to get a bit testy at times with each other. But we manage to work past that and continue to dialogue on the one topic in common - the Lost Dutchman. ...

Let's do some basic math on finding the LDM and uncovering the mine down to the gold level. The LDM is undoubtedly completely filled in by now and is flat with the surrounding terrain. The following math will detail the task of digging the mine out: 1. If the mine is a conical pit 75 feet in diamete...

On page 194 of Helen Corbin's book, The Bible, is the map known as the Ortiz Map and page 194 is the Ortiz Letter which reads in part starting roughly at the middle of the letter: "First go to tordis mountain then south side. go eastward untill you find the first gorge on the south side from th...

The below web site provides an insight into how the Spanish began to control commerce and MAP MAKING in the Amercias at an early date: http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=626 Spain established the "Casaa de Contratacion on 1/20/1503 which grew over time to be ...

It would seem illogical that the Spanish authorities would include the detailed rules/methods for making secret maps to mine locations and the marking of trails to/from the mines in the 1584 mining ordinances and their later revisions. These mining ordinances would be widely distributed and availabl...

I will agree with others on the Forum that Kenworthy saw a Spanish clue in ever rock in the Supers including ones that would have taken a crew of 50 miners years to carve by hand. He would also read a memory map and make a federal case out of it. However, I would caution not to throw everything Kenw...

OK team, here it is. You should be able to afford this! Sandstone Press sells and English/Spanish soft cover book of the 1584 Spanish Mining Ordinances for $8.95. Here is the web site to order it. http://www.sunstonepress.com/cgi-bin/bookview.cgi?_recordnum=248 I am ordering mine today. First one to...

Several postings on the Forum have questioned the veracity of Charles (aka Chuck) Kenworthy's book, "Treasure Signs, Symbols, Shadow, & Sun Signs" (1991), plus his follow-up book, "Death Traps to Treasures" (1994). In phone calls and one-on-one meeting in Apache Junction, Chu...

I found one reference to an english version of the 1783 Spanish mining ordinances written by Hyde Clarke in 1880. He wrote a three volume work that had the first two volumes on Mexican mining and the third was a translation of Gamboa's "Commentarios a las Ordenanzas de Minas". The Universi...

Here is a web site that has what appears to be a pdf version of the 1783 Spanish mining ordinances regarding mining in New Spain. I don't know Spanish so will have to have a friend check if this is what is on the site. Can someone on the Forum verify if this is the 1783 rules that Joe referenced? If...

The AddAll rare book web site is the best I have found for locating old and out of print books. It is acutally a search engine that goes out and searches a number of rare book sites and brings back the matches it finds. Another example - Joe Rabidau referenced another book on page two of this topic ...

There is one copy of Dr. Campa's book, "Treasure of Sange de Cristos", for sale on the AddAll rare book web site for $18.00 for anyone wanting one. Just enter the book title on the web page, search, and the one available copy will come up. Here is the link: http://www.addall.com/Used/ Happ...

Has anyone got an update on what is happening with Ron Feldman's project to open a Spanish Mine in the Supers near Iron Mountain? Haven't seen anything about it this fall and know he was hoping to get the dig started this year after jumping over all of the permit and other hurdles.

Roger

Here are a couple of other references on the Peralta Stone Maps from the 1970's that contain either drawings or photo's of the maps - all show the dagger in place: 1. "Are the Peralta Stone Maps a Hoax?" by Bernice and Jack McGee. Article in Frontier Times, April-May 1973 issue, pages 12-1...

Here is a rather lengthy copy of text from two sources to offer some evidence of the year in which the 2nd Peralta battle took place in the Supers. Please excuse any typo's as I will just make one pass on this. 1. Source: Rainbows End - The Story of the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine by Milton F. Rose (Unp...

One of the best Web sites to search for rare and out of print books is AddAll. They have two copies of "A Little War of Our Own" by Dedera. One is signed for $100 and the other unsigned for $47. Here is the link if you are interested:

Roger

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