Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Hi Jack:
"Wayne, I also learned it would be very difficult to substantiate Chinese DNA near Camp Verde, pre-1848. There were many, many Chinese living in Jerome in 1867-1868. This information came from “A History of Chinese Immigration into Arizona Territory: A Frontier Culture in the American West ...

Jack,

I for one certainly find it intriguing, it's obvious you've given this a great deal of thought. Not that I'm convinced that the Chinese were in the Supes, as it would have been far easier for the Jesuits to trade gold to the Chinese in the Philippines, and it would make sense that they ...

WAY over their heads !!!

Betcha didn't get an answer Thomas.....probably because the subject is all over their heads.

more....

http://www.calalus.com/wp-content/uploa ... -Texts.pdf

http://www.calalus.com/strange-world-th ... s-775-900/

http://www.indiansabbathtrail.info/Calalus.htm

a blog....https://dnaconsultants.com/tucson-artif ... rcheology/

Scott Wolter's take...... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxs872

I don't know cuzzinjack, as most of what I have read about the Apache and other natives has said that they believed it was mining and prospectors who were the ones defiling their holy places in mountain areas. This has also been in play during the controversy over the Oak Flat project.
https ...

Some examples of Salado polychrome ollas from the Tonto Basin area.
http://www.rarepottery.info/protect/saladotonto.htm

Another good writeup on the Salado.....https://www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/salado.html

No, not by Aztecs, Jack.
I was thinking it may have been others, but not likely the Apache, since their presence was not contemporary with any influence the Aztec could have had in the region. Hohokam perhaps, but more likely the Salado IMO. ......https://www.nps.gov/tont/learn/historyculture ...

An old thread I know, but here is a link to a shot of the "aztec" calendar on the grounds of the Mormon temple in Mesa as mentioned by Emanon 2.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/10347442@N00/10719320926

Some interesting ideas there, Jack.
I see surface and shallow pit mining of gold deposits by native people more or less local to the area as a distinct possibility, though not by the Aztec themselves. It is more likely IMO, that the gold was collected for trade purposes and exchanged for more ...

Some interesting ideas there, Jack.
I see surface and shallow pit mining of gold deposits by native people more or less local to the area as a distinct possibility, though not by the Aztec themselves. It is more likely IMO, that the gold was collected for trade purposes and exchanged for more ...

Perhaps for a long time you folks have asked the wrong question about what our motive was. Originally it was to remove the library for its own safety. Now the library has been converted to data that we can turn on in a second and make available to all mankind. It is quickly becoming apparent our ...

Less a gift than the product of a gifted person, whose childhood experiences growing up in a family with a history of treasure hunting, AND stone carving apparently, resulted in his having the imagination, tools, and motive required to pursue his hobby. The newer evidence makes it clear that the H/P ...

"Souvenirs" = "Stones" IMO.

Thanks Gary, for a very nice reply as usual.
As you say, while it may not be a "game changer" in the sense that he was trying to share his own experiences and ideas within the parameters of what he probably wanted to be a book about his "adventure" with the stones, it might give us a better ...

I was going to post this image of the cover sheet of the Travis Tumlinson manuscript earlier in this thread but I felt it had gone so far off track that it wasn't worthwhile. I did provide an image to Ryan Gordon over on TNET, so it may also show up over there.

It doesn't add to the discussion and ...

Another to add to the collection of "stone maps".

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51 ... czre5v.png

Probably because the answer is the same as your question..."the Cursum Perficio stone or paper has been brought up as an important element in understanding the PSM as well as being an important element in proving that the PSM are not fakes."

Regards:SH

Merry Christmas Donald
And the same to Joe and Paul and everyone else who may be following this topic:

You have to admit that Archaeologists have little interest in the study of old mining sites, at least those attributed to European exploitation. I don't know if that will ever change, since ...

Donald:

Perhaps the connections you have in Archaeology can help unravel part of the story.
Obviously, when it come down to a choice between hard cold cash and a chance to do the kind of work you have trained for, the "hat, vest and new truck" won out. At least for one official on the government ...

I would also say "bless their hearts, every one of them.
Not just for their perseverance and good fortune.
But also for giving the rest of us a "blueprint" of sorts, to follow if we should be so lucky ourselves.

Regards:SH.