Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Gregory,

"Ask and you shall receive" LOL

I appreciate the offer Gregory, but I have seen it all. Some of it, I even have copies of. The stone map stuff anyway. I was just curious about what happened to all of it. It's good to know it wound up with a good new home.

I bet you will get many requests ...

Roger,

Nice post! I also enjoyed your post summerizing the campout with Joe. I think I would have enjoyed those campfire discussions. Sorry I missed it. Maybe next year, if I am granted one more year amongst the living.


Jan,

Rick Peck was far more than just fascinated by the stone maps ...

Wiz,

I have seen a number of PM's being circulated that have been copied and pasted into new PM's and emails. That could give the appearance that someone had hacked into the PM section of the site.

Especially if someone had two identies and copied a PM from one identity and sent it out under ...

I Robert Edison agree to and support Roger's proposed "Code of Conduct" for this forum.

redison

Wiz,

Is it possible that you (or your source) misunderstood?

Under normal circumstances, the webmaster (Count) would be expected to have access to PM's but not moderators.

Are you aware of what the difference is and could you (or your source) have gotten the two confused?

redison

ILoveJoeRibaudo

I probably disagree with Joe Ribaudo more often and intensely than anyone on this board, but at least I do it under a username that I am known as by several people. I did not creat a false identity to make my posts under. I think your tactics stink.

I had many friends that gave ...

blacktop,

I don't believe that even the anti-Joe people appreciate that approach.

redison

Joe Ribaudo wrote:
No one needs to leave the forum, I will go back to the moderated forum

Joe Ribaudo

Is this yet another Last "Last Post" in this unmoderated forum?

There's NEVER has and never will be a last word from joe.

redison

P, Zentull, Ray,

You guys all make valid points. The most valid of all being that NO PLACE can be eliminated until the mine is found, and Nobody knows where it is until it is found. The clues are all so vague and generic that you can make a handfull of them work just about anywhere in the mountains ...

Nice post Roger!

A LOT of typing too! The only thing I can add is that some stories about the Dutchman include Waltz saying that there was also a placed deposit in the vicinity of his hard rock mine.

With placer that easy to get, and the Dutchman hard rock mine probably not visable (because it was ...

I found this entire document to be very interesting and I think many of you will too.

According to the way I read it, Prospecting is allowed in the Wilderness Area and SHALL NOT BE PREVENTED. see Sec. 4 Special Provisions paragraph (2).

There are also some interesting requirements for information ...

Quote of the month. (Out dated but still good!)


Tim Allen, comedian, had this to say about Martha
Stewart:

"Boy, I feel safer now that she's behind bars. O.J. &
Kobe are walking around; Osama Bin Laden too, but
they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean and work in the yard and put ...

How about a Topic for posting all those great Jokes and stories you get in e-mail?



TWO GREAT TRUE STORIES....

STORY NUMBER ONE

Many years ago, Al Capone virtually owned Chicago. Capone wasn't famous for anything heroic. He was notorious for enmeshing the windy city in everything from ...

The Bees have been in the mountains for as long as anyone can remember. There has been a huge Hive on the Peter's Mesa side of Tortilla mountain that appears on maps all the way back to 40's. It's almost a landmark.

The only thing that has changed is that they have mixed with the Africanized Bees ...

Zentfull,

Nicely put! A great overview of the entire situation.

Makes you wonder why anyone with the least bit of common sense doesn't just forget about all the published material on the subject including the subject itself and go fishing doesn't it?

redison

Wouldn't surprise me if Roger knows right where to find info about that clue. Another one I have been wanting to ask Roger about is.......

I read somewhere years ago about a rock the shape of a sitting Indian with a blanket over his head that marks the enterance to a mine on the side of the slope ...

S.C.

Thanks but don't hold me accountable for any of this "speculation" here. I ran out of first hand information way back there.

R

CuMiner,

That is an interesting speculation! I had never entertained the thought that he may have come to Az. allready a believer in the stone maps. He could have seen the Life Magazine article on them at some point in time and made some kind of connection I guess. Maybe if we bounce this around ...

I wonder if that was the origin of the German Clues, at least in part? -Wiz

Highly unlikely Wiz since the younger Hatt never saw the clues in their German form if he ever did see them at all.

CuMiner

Obviously the Petrasch's ALL knew everything that was in the letter. Plus the additional ...

I have often wondered about the letter Rhiney wrote to Gotfried and Herman. The one convincing them to come back to Arizona and help with the search. As Thomas Glover pointed out in his book, it "must have been some letter." Because they came back to something they had abandoned.

S.C.

I can shed ...

Roger,

(No doubt that if it has ever been written down, Roger knows where it is) NICE PULL ROGER!

But, this Rose version is really pretty hard to get comfortable with don't you think? No mention of Holmes and Roberts, and Rose didn't seem to know where the ore ended up in the end.

I noticed that ...

P

Although I make as strong a case as I can against the exchange of information between the Holmes and Petrasch camps, I would like to believe that at some time or another there was some kind of exchange. I have been shown an area that is almost impossible to deny that the Horse Map applies to. In ...

P,

From pg 184 of "The Bible...)

"When Hermann realized the directions were too vague to get him to the mine he began to look for help. Shortly after the turn of the century Hermann approached Wm. Edwards and George Matthew Roberts..."

This is supposed to be when Hermann divulged the German ...

LDM,

Now that makes sense!

It also ties up ALL of the loose ends very nicely.


redison

James,

You are working me into a corner here I can feel it coming. I'm just not certain which open space to head for and which corner to avoid. LOL

In all honesty, I have had difficulty with a number of Barks landmarks and directions for a long time. I've often wondered if Spangler didn't leave ...