You know that the information that travis needed to have in order to have made these stone is extensive.Alan - I have no "dog in this fight" so to speak because I really haven't looked into the Stone Maps as anything other than something interesting since I first heard about them. As far as the evidence that for Travis having any involvement in carving any of the stone being "laughable" however, I have to disagree. While there may be no photograph of Travis carving one of the stones, there's certainly more than just a little circumstantial evidence.alan m wrote:Has anyone considered the possibility that the Tumlinson family are just now admitting that travis carved the stones in order to make a legitamite claim to anthing that may be recovered in the future as a result of the information on the tablets ?
The evidence for travis having carved any of these stones is weak if not laughable
people have been carving pictures and such into stone since egyptian times, any cursory look into archeological sites will confirm this.
Travis carving in stone is not a unique event.
for those of you out there who have deciphered parts of the stones, yea, I know you exist
Alan
Alan:alan m wrote:Has anyone considered the possibility that the Tumlinson family are just now admitting that travis carved the stones in order to make a legitamite claim to anthing that may be recovered in the future as a result of the information on the tablets ?
The evidence for travis having carved any of these stones is weak if not laughable
people have been carving pictures and such into stone since egyptian times, any cursory look into archeological sites will confirm this.
Travis carving in stone is not a unique event.
for those of you out there who have deciphered parts of the stones, yea, I know you exist
Alan
Alan,alan m wrote:You may be right but I would bet that it would be tied up in the courts for a decade.
I find it interesting that the evidence for travis carving the stones comes from people who will not name thier source or thier source has passed away leaving no way to verify the story.
Not one person can say they say travis actualy carve these specific stones.
and now all this information starts to come out.
And this is supposed to be more believable than the idea that travis did not find the stones but perhaps acquired them from his treasure hunting grandfather ?
If travis carved these stones then he must have traveled deep within the Superstitions.
I have and have found direct evidence of Spanish occupation at sites indicated by the tablets.
Glover states that travis never entered the mountains, well then who made the monuments and defensive works and how is it that they are exactly where the tablets indicate them to be ?
If the main line position is that travis carved these stones then so be it.
There is no direct proof, third party statements do not constitute proof.
I am stating for the record that I am still convinced in the authenticity of theses tablets based upon my own field research.
Done in the field, not from a library.
Alan
As usual Joe you make statments that put you as the expert.Joe Ribaudo wrote:Alan,alan m wrote:You may be right but I would bet that it would be tied up in the courts for a decade.
I find it interesting that the evidence for travis carving the stones comes from people who will not name thier source or thier source has passed away leaving no way to verify the story.
Not one person can say they say travis actualy carve these specific stones.
and now all this information starts to come out.
And this is supposed to be more believable than the idea that travis did not find the stones but perhaps acquired them from his treasure hunting grandfather ?
If travis carved these stones then he must have traveled deep within the Superstitions.
I have and have found direct evidence of Spanish occupation at sites indicated by the tablets.
Glover states that travis never entered the mountains, well then who made the monuments and defensive works and how is it that they are exactly where the tablets indicate them to be ?
If the main line position is that travis carved these stones then so be it.
There is no direct proof, third party statements do not constitute proof.
I am stating for the record that I am still convinced in the authenticity of theses tablets based upon my own field research.
Done in the field, not from a library.
Alan
Thomas and I are friends. We have had many conversations about the Supe's and the legends and history that surrounds them. That would include the Stone Maps. He has never stated to me, nor has he written in his book, that "travis never entered the mountains".
I have a very large library and since you have misquoted Thomas, I would respectfully suggest that you re-examine yours.
Good luck,
Joe Ribaudo
Alan,alan m wrote:Just a quick question for you Joe
How do we get closer to an understanding when you post that
what I say is BS ?
You do not know me, how old I am or how long I have researched the LDM
and when I offered to tell and show you a significant clue to understanding the tablets, you just ignored the offer as if it was beneath you to respond.
as it now stands, you know nothing of me or my work, my theories or evidence which I base those theories on, yet you call it BS
when I err I correct it and admit it because thats the kind of person I am as you should well know
you owe me an apology for stating that my post was BS but I doubt that you will lower yourself to that level because apparrently thats the kind of person you are.
Glad we got that cleared up.
Alan
