Spanish Masons and the Occupation of the West Indies

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I'm confused ... (which is not a biggie).

I have watched this site on and off for some few years now - never posting much but enjoyed reading ...
My daughter used to live near Phoenix but not any more - so I no longer have an excuse for excursions into the Supes.

However - this 'new' bill711 have me all stymied.
Bill - are you the same bill711 that used to post here??
No disrespect intended but you dont 'sound' at all like the old Bill - it's like two completely different persons - I am just curious and as I said - no disrespect intended.

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Loke,

Nice to see you are still around.

This Bill is not our Bill. The Bill who is posting now, is Bill Riley. He uses many identities, I have no idea why, as we always know it is him. He is normally not someone any of us take seriously.

Hope all is well with you and the family.

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Okay, I am playing catch up here still but am intrigued by the fact that John Wayne was somehow involved here with Chuck Kenworthy? We had a ranch down the road from one of his aquired ranches in Maricopa. Used to run cows back to his guys that broke through the fence line.
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Post by Mike McChesney »

Here is the back cover of "Treasure Signs, Symbols, Shadow, and Sun Signs" 1991

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Yes, The Duke was associated with Charles Kenworthy. I don't know how close he was with the family. I do know that he worked with Kenworthy on a Spanish Galleon Wreck off of Catalina Island, Ca (that is where this pic is from).

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Sorry, wrong pic. The first one is a compass rock in Anza Borrego Desert.

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Thanks Mike,

Great picture and I guess you learn a little something everyday.
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It's my understanding John had a financial interest in Chucks work.
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John Wayne

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Randy,

Do you have a source for that "understanding"?

John Wayne supplying the boat for the Catalina search is a well known bit of history. Did they carry the "partnership" farther? Anyone have some documentation?

I am still trying to believe the "King's Secret Code" story. Don't want to "pile on" Kenworthy, but common sense requires more than "I heard".
When treasures are found, they usually generate some publicity. Is there something like that, with Kenworthy using the King's Secret Code, out there somewhere?

Seems like a reasonable question to ask, if you are going to use that code for a lifelong search.

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Randy,

Do you have a source for that "understanding"?

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Joe,
Do you know where the Lost Dutchman Mine is? :lol:

Maybe so, but I'll bet you won't tell me right 8O

I don't have any paperwork if that's what your wondering. No physical proof.
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Randy,

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Joe,
Do you know where the Lost Dutchman Mine is?

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That's a trick question.....right? :lol: I have known that answer since I was 13 years old. Learned who was buried in Grant's Tomb about the same time. :lol:

"It's my understanding John had a financial interest in Chucks work."

Do you place an equal value on the answer to the source for that statement and the answer to where the LDM is? 8O

There is one important question that remains unanswered: Do the Stone Maps show the location of Harry LaFrance's Cave Of Gold Bars? To save you some time searching, I will give you that answer.......YES. It also shows a number of other "factual" locations.

I believe Buscar is now searching out those "other" locations. He will be walking in the footsteps of Chuck Aylor, Tom Kollenborn and Ted De Grazia. There may be some other footprints mixed in as well. :lol:

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Do you place an equal value on the answer to the source for that statement and the answer to where the LDM is? 8O
Nope, different people, but who's right?......


wait, who said I know where the LDM is? :lol:

There is one important question that remains unanswered: Do the Stone Maps show the location of Harry LaFrance's Cave Of Gold Bars? To save you some time searching, I will give you that answer.......YES. It also shows a number of other "factual" locations.
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Thanks Joe, but I already knew that. 8O
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The information, Gene Reynolds shared with me… is quite possibly the most important piece of evidence in existence when it comes to ‘the real story’ of gold in Central Arizona…the Superstition Mountains.

The information involves a map found in the basement between the pages of an old book titled “Peralta” in the home (Washington, DC) of Stella Hawkins. Stella was the daughter of Adolph Ruth… the man who lost his life (1931) searching for the Peralta mine.

No, it is not the Johnson-Walker Map nor twice told tales… dreamed up in somebody’s wild imagination.

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Buscar,
What can be said but wow! It would be great if you would post about this information, but I understand if you don't. I tried to contact Gene through this web site to see if I could obtain a copy of his"Borrego 13" CD. Later found out he is in poor health and have not wanted to bother him, would you know if there are copies available and how to get a copy? Again wow! Good luck, be safe, and via con dios, respectfully RVReclus
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Borrego 13

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Gene has 10 or 11 CDs left and has mentioned he would sell the lot for $200. I don't think he is up for selling them one at a time. He no longer has a PO Box set up.

If anyone is interested let me know and I will pass your information along to him. I don't know if he still looks in on the Forum, but a number of folks are still receiving e-mails from him.

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Ruth's Map

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All,

The map Buscar is speaking of is very simple. It is so simple, that it requires great familiarity of the ground it covers, to read it. While Gene has not been there, he has given a few people a very accurate map. It has nothing to do with the LDM.

Take care over this holiday weekend.

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