I see, so that is your interpretation of those symbols then correct? Thank you, had suspected that was what Starman was referring to on that other forum. He did not post any photos of this temple referred to either.klondike wrote:Hello Roy,
The place of worship that is indicated on the Latin Heart is one of the temples that is referenced on the Tucson Artifacts. Remember directly under the temple is 3 symbols. One representing the library, one representing the sign of the ancients, and one representing temple. A literal translation of those three symbols would be: A place of worship that contains the library of the ancients and the library of the people.
Klondike also wrote
As was also pointed out to you by our mutual amigo Joe, who or whom appointed you or your associates to be "gatekeepers" of historical knowledge? Did the government appoint you to withhold such information? If so, you have not done a good job of keeping the whole thing secret. Looks like more evasion rather than your being honest and forthright.
To you other point, as has been pointed out to me, does not take into consideration the impact of such a release of such information if it is not managed properly. And that is true.
Klondike also wrote
Nope, not important to me at all. In fact as this has shaken out, or failed to shake out, the whole Calalus story and the add-on "Oz" tale really are not of any use in proving pre-Columbian contact with the Old World at all. Joe and I have been trying to allow you every opportunity to present and prove up your story, it is not up to us to do that for you. It is after all, YOUR homework and YOUR story, not mine and not Joe's.
If this is important to you then do your homework if not find another adventure.
Klondike also wrote
Have I called you names? Some of your posts have certainly given the impression of being the work of a pathological liar, possibly a sociopath. Especially the constant attempting to manipulate others. You can easily disprove my suspicions with some photos and real names of other members of your group, that could then be checked. Otherwise it does look like several different "personalities" are all living in the same body, ala Sybil. As you refuse to provide anything like names or photos to support your stories, what else should I conclude? Prove my suspicions groundless, and I will be more than happy to post both an apology and a retraction. As to the last part, more in a moment.
There are too many harsh words been said here that are childish and if a dialogue is reduced to the lowest common denominator of the human intellect I had just as soon pass.
Klondike also wrote
Ah-hem. You are fleeing the discussion again because of how uncomfortable it is? And you speak of childish behavior? I would point out that I have not said a single thing about the television series, which is after all entertainment not an historical documentary, nor referred to the Latin Heart or Travis Tumlinson.
I will leave this with you. If you think those folks on TV ended up on Black Cross Butte and Fish Creek Canyon because they successfully triangulated the location of dead folks, next you will be believing Travis created the Latin Heart.
Klondike
If you are able to be open and honest, lay your cards on the table and we will talk. Instead of demanding that someone convince themselves that your stories have merit, which is not how it works for any claims as you have posted, provide some proof. Did you do your own homework? If so why did you not ever mention the strange finding of crosses in a cemetery in west Des Moines Iowa, made of shell, or the even stranger story of buried crosses found in California? Wouldn't these be helpful in proving that your Calalus colony had passed that way, or was having some impression on native peoples? Not a single word on these oddities have you mentioned. Hence I must conclude that you are unaware of them. I do not see these as linked to Calalus at all, unfortunately, more likely they are related to wandering Irish monks of the sixth century or another even more obscure source. (The odd diamond shaped tops of the Iowa crosses are particularly curious)
Still waiting for photos and answers Klondike - and as much as I detest deadlines, I do not have endless time to wait for you. I hope you are composing your story into a book, and I do not say that lightly either. Rather than continue to play games, let me put it this way. I will check this forum again on 7-25; if you can not post some answers and photos by that time, I will let you alone. I really do have other things that demand my time and attention.
Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco