Ten Years From Now

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It's really quite easy to see the future of this Country. You simply have to look at the UK.

They are very good at complaining about the ASSHATS running their Country but seem unable to do anything about it. Just like us here in the USA. But since we can look into the future a good old fashioned capitalist may be able to take advantage of the situation. With that in mind I will post here accordingly.

Heres our first view>

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/113 ... olice-told

POLICE will be ordered not to charge Muslim extremists in many hate crime cases – to stop them becoming more militant.
Guidelines will tell forces to press for conviction only in cases of clear-cut criminal acts.
Officers will be advised not to proceed when evidence of lawbreaking is “borderline”.
Examples of crimes to which a blind eye may be turned include incitement to religious hatred or viewing extremist material on the internet.
Last night critics warned that the move could mean Islamic radicals being give the freedom to encourage violence.
Some saw the move as a politically correct attempt to appease extremists who hate Britain.
It could even mean officers tolerating many activities of Muslim preachers of hate like the hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza.
Tory MP David Davies said: “This sounds like abject surrender. Everyone should be equal in the eyes of the law.
“It doesn’t matter whether someone is suspected of incitement to hatred or shoplifting – they should all face the same risk of prosecution.
“There should be no special favours or treatment for any section of the community.”
Officials insist there is no suggestion that people who have clearly committed offences will avoid prosecution.
Instead, they want to avoid alienating Muslims on the fringes of extremism by dragging them to court over petty allegations unlikely to result in conviction.
One fear is that some young Muslims are falling under the influence of extremist preachers while serving prison sentences or on remand awaiting trial.

A senior Whitehall official said the guidance was being drawn up as part of a drive to use persuasion rather than the criminal justice system to fight extremism.
He added: “The aim is to stop people being dragged into extremism.
“We are not talking about letting someone off who has committed a clear offence, but where it is unclear if an offence has been committed.
“For instance, where there has been incitement or someone has been on the internet there can be a grey area where there is some discretion and it would be more sensible to avoid going down the criminal route.”
The Government’s counter- terrorism board is drawing up the advice, which will be sent to all police forces, including the Metropolitan, later this year.
The move follows an updated Home Office counter-terrorism strategy announced earlier this year. The new strategy urges preventative measures to win round potential extremists instead of arrest and prosecution.
“We need to be able to provide support for individuals who are drawn into criminal activity,” the document says.
Councils, community groups and the Government’s youth justice board will be among organisations expected to identify those drawn into extremism or at risk.
Social workers, teachers and other professionals will be asked to try to work with some Muslim youths to reduce the likelihood of them turning into extremists.
But the new strategy is likely to reduce the likelihood of prosecutions against Islamist extremists protesting against troops.
In Luton earlier this year, protesters displayed placards bearing the words “butchers” and “animals” at a homecoming parade for 2nd Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment. There were no arrests for incitement.
A Home Office spokesman said: “Preventing people becoming radicalised is a key priority for the Government. The police response needs to be proportionate to deal with crimes people commit while reducing the risk to public safety.”
The latest move represents a reversal of the policy introduced under Tony Blair in the wake of the terrorist attacks in London in 2005, when as Prime Minister he called for an overhaul of the criminal justice system to root out and prosecute extremists.
Past attempts to win over potential Muslim radicals have frequently run into controversy. Millions of pounds have been pledged to fund Muslim groups, drawing claims that they are receiving special treatment.


You may wonder how you could take advantage of this knowledge.

One idea would be to establish the NAAMR. The National Association for the Advancement of Muslim Radicals. Get a few lawyers....hey, figure it out for yourself.

Have to find a Muslim snake oil saleman out there that could smoothly talk like he is for the betterment of everyone while actually selling the product and organization. Hey it could work!

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Here's the latest from Britain.
Burkinis are required during the Muslim time at the public pool. Yes this is for real from across the pond. Coming soon to a pool near you!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... kinis.html

Croydon council in south London runs separate one-and-a half-hour swimming sessions for Muslim men and women every Saturday and Sunday at Thornton Heath Leisure Centre.
Swimmers were told last week on the centre's website that "during special Muslim sessions male costumes must cover the body from the navel to the knee and females must be covered from the neck to the ankles and wrists".
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Canada trying to make ends meet....on health care bills. I know it's not Britain but it's the same system.

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print ... 06&sponsor

Here's another.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadi ... Gu_Z3KXoQw
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We are not talking about letting someone off who has committed a clear offence, but where it is unclear if an offence has been committed.

much ado about nothing
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Again ,the response is a tad hysterical...............................................".Swimmers were told last week on the centre's website that "during special Muslim sessions male costumes must cover the body from the navel to the knee and females must be covered from the neck to the ankles and wrists".

the KEY phrase is "DURING SPECIAL MUSLIM SESSIONS"
There really is no need to dramatise this issue....its not important ,neither is it indicative of a plan to force christians to adopt Muslim garb.
There are several other religious groups (non muslim) who have seperate sessions set aside for them in a host of different facilities ,and as in everything else there are certain rules.....one instance is special swimming sessions reserved for nudists :D now if one chose to go along to that "session" 8O one could hardly complain if an official refused to let you enter the water in a penguin suit for example.
There are quite enough racial and religious issues in britain as it is ,thanks very much,without overstating the significance of this one particular rabble rousing headline.[/i][/u]
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Don,

You can't see the forest for the trees.

Why the hell is there a special session for anyone? I thought they are all Brits and this is a public pool?

That's exactly the damn problem!

The swimming pool is open from "now til then" and every one is welcome. You want something special build your own pool.

Can't you see the implications of this type of asshat tripe?
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knun,

why is it not ok for brits to have different regulations for different times of day but its just fine for the us govt to regulate what type of broadcast programs we can watch at different times of the day? could it be because the programing standards are designed to protect christian values and the brits protects a whole bunch of stupid religious values?
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Yes
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By the way I'm ready. :lol:
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Knun wrote:Don,

You can't see the forest for the trees.

Why the hell is there a special session for anyone? I thought they are all Brits and this is a public pool?

That's exactly the damn problem!



Can't you see the implications of this type of asshat tripe?
Knun,
There are also special session if you wish to call them that for school parties,old age pensioners,as ive said nudists, various other groups.....now that doesnt mean if youre not a pensioner for example you cant go in the pool during a session for old age pensioners..it merely means that if you do,there are certain conditions or rules that apply during that particular hour or whatever.....and if you dont abide by them you will be asked to leave..thats all...its really no big issue,the headline is just another attempt by a right wing "rag" to stir up discontent....we have left wing rags too so it evens itself out.
There are implications in everything,if you wish to look constantly for them.....but as in this case the headline is making something out of nothing.........these special sessions as they are so quaintly refferred to are nothing new,,theyve been around for years,and werent introduced soley for muslims...........
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Hey Don,

If your good with the "special interests get special treatment" story at public pools so be it.

I posted it here for Americans to see as it relates to our future.

Here's another future vision playing out today in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html

A paedophile with a 30-year history of abusing children is being prescribed Viagra on the NHS - and there is nothing the authorities can do to stop him.

Roger Martin, 71, merely has to visit his GP to obtain the libido-enhancing drug, even though experts warn it will enable him to continue preying on children despite his age.

The probation officers who oversee Martin are powerless to interfere with the administration of prescription drugs.

He does not have to tell his GP about his criminal past and even if he does, doctors cannot take convictions into account.

Martin suffers from numerous illnesses including diabetes, for which Department of Health guidelines say Viagra can be prescribed.

He has forced himself on a string of youngsters and his latest assault was on an 11-year-old girl last year.
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Knun,
The paedophile/viagra issue you brought up.....that is a human rights issue i guess....crazy? of course it is...but its not the fault of the NHS,its the fault of crazy politicians and human rights system.......loopholes in the law.....should we any more dismantle the NHS because of that particular idiocy, than americans should dismantle the criminal justice system because of O.J.S impsons not guilty verdict?
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knun,
A paedophile with a 30-year history of abusing children is being prescribed Viagra on the NHS - and there is nothing the authorities can do to stop him.
dont show this to rush limpbough. he'd be on the first boat to gb.
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Front Of The Line......

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Hi Don,

Hope all is well with you and the family.

I heard today that a transsexual who wanted a sex-change operation in the UK was allocated $30,000 (plus or minus) for the operation, while cancer victims are being turned down for cancer drugs because of the cost.

It was claimed that sex-change operations move to the front of the que, ahead of everyone else.

Is this true in Merry-Old England????

Take care,

Joe
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Re: Front Of The Line......

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Joe Ribaudo wrote:Hi Don,

Hope all is well with you and the family.

I heard today that a transsexual who wanted a sex-change operation in the UK was allocated $30,000 (plus or minus) for the operation, while cancer victims are being turned down for cancer drugs because of the cost.

It was claimed that sex-change operations move to the front of the que, ahead of everyone else.

Is this true in Merry-Old England????

Take care,

Joe
Joe - here's a similar issue in Massachusetts right now. I'm increasingly saddened and pessimistic about the future of not only my home country, but civilization as a whole.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13068147/
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people who spend their lives sticking their noses into others sexual behaviors are bound to be disappointed at some moment.
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Other People's Business......

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pip,

Once again you prove yourself to be a "genius". 8O

No one cares if you want to wear girls panties. When you start breaking into peoples' houses to steal them, it becomes someone else's business. As long as you pay your own way for your deviant sexual behavior, no one, here, gives a rats-ass.

These little details seem to slip by your giant intellect. Your personal sexual freedom stops when someone else has to foot the bill to transplant your penis to the top of your head. On the other hand, in your case, I would be happy to pay my share of the bill for you to get that long overdue procedure. :lol:

Are you less concerned about the Bradshaw earthquakes now? I did my best to ease your mind on that issue. :roll:

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joe
As long as you pay your own way for your deviant sexual behavior, no one, here, gives a rats-ass.
i am glad to hear you approve of gay marriage.
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lbj,

Don't care if you marry your goat. Did you just call gay's deviant?

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since none of the self proclaimed experts have responded, allow me.

you will notice these "experts" are from some where other than the superstition region...i can count two or three people in this and the other forums who actually lived in the area...
reality is not a coveted member of the dutchman community, and those people who did grow up in the region are insulted and degraded by these "experts".
the "mine " created and sold as the original at goldfield is a pipedream...as are most of the literature written after 1970.
it is all about people from somewhere else making money selling their version of arizona to tourists.
how much does that rube from the east coast charge to take his "trail ride" into the mountains?
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PIppy,
What is it with you asshats?

Why do you clowns posts things that have nothing to do with the discussion?

Your conversations bnetween each other must be something. No wonder you idiots need community organisers. You can't even have a conversation without someone directing. WOW
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joe

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Don't care if you marry your goat. Did you just call gay's deviant? 
i hope you wont be thrown out of your church for accepting gay marriage.

no, i did not call gays deviant. you did that. grow up and stop trying to play silly word games with me. you make you money from seniors on socialist medicare so try to act a little more mature.
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No Contest........

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lbj,

Let's see......I wrote: "No one cares if you want to wear girls panties. When you start breaking into peoples' houses to steal them, it becomes someone else's business. As long as you pay your own way for your deviant sexual behavior, no one, here, gives a rats-ass."

You did a partial quote of what I wrote, and twisted it to mean I approved of gay marriage. I did not mention gays. Did I offend you by bringing your goat into the conversation? Nothing gay about that.....unless your goat is a Billy.

"grow up and stop trying to play silly word games with me. you make you money from seniors on socialist medicare so try to act a little more mature."

"Word games" implies that two people are playing. You are not and never have been in the game.

What exactly is it that you do to help the elderly? These folks have paid into the system all their lives. Is it Socialism to give them the services that they have paid for? I have spent the last 20 years helping the elderly. Don't believe I will be apologizing for that any time soon.

As usual, you have absolutely no idea what you are writing/talking about.
Your most meaningful conversations are held in a bar, just as you have said. That's exactly where it belongs.

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Re: Front Of The Line......

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Joe Ribaudo wrote:Hi Don,

Hope all is well with you and the family.

I heard today that a transsexual who wanted a sex-change operation in the UK was allocated $30,000 (plus or minus) for the operation, while cancer victims are being turned down for cancer drugs because of the cost.

It was claimed that sex-change operations move to the front of the que, ahead of everyone else.

Is this true in Merry-Old England????

Take care,

Joe
Hi joe,
Is that story true?Well I dont know,I didnt hear of it,but sadly i wouldnt be at all surprised if the NHS did fund that or similar cases. But of course I dont think that guy would be pushed in front of someone who needed cancer treatment for example,and the cancer patient ignored. I think what you were told is probabley one of those "urban legends".To suggest that some guy who wants a surgically implanted set of tits is given preference over essential and emergency operations is rather stupid.......but im guessing in the present private vs public health hysteria,that that particular story will grow until its suggested that the NHS is considering or imposing cumpolsory sex change ops....and what is more-some will believe it :D......... Its not the case all cancer drugs are rationed,Some most definitely are,but these are the really expensive drugs,the newer ones.But the expense isnt the only issue.Not all the forementioned drugs have been shown (in the experts eyes) to be clinically cost effective (their phrase -not mine).........
But in whichever system there is a financial limit,in the NHS if that limit is reached ,as i undertand it..generic drugs are given instead of the ones with brand name...in Ameruica ,so some will say, once the limit is reached you get cut off completely.....there again others say that is nonsense......
My basic opinion on all this,and its not because of any political orientation,is that if anyone holds the moral high ground it must be the system which gives health care at cost price ,rather than the system which does it to make a profit.....and of course logic dictates that the cost price system must be cheaper for the patient/tax payer ,if for no other reason than that the profit margin element doesnt exist.......

regards
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Trans something or others asking for others to pay for their idea of reality.

This goes to the core of the socialist agenda.

Who the heck in there right mind would give tax dollars to anyone that is not "happy" with themselves?

I'd much rather spend my taxes on my family as I see fit. I work hard to make my living and I have no interest in trans anything.

If you feel you should be something other than you were born as, work hard, save your money and cut and paste as you see fit. I could care less. Just don't ask me to help. I won't.

If you are poor...your poor. Stop thinking about what you don't have and start thinking about how to get to a point where you can.

No one owes you a darn thing. If, in your mind, you were born a man and are a woman :roll: earn a living and get your tuck. If you can't guess what you are a man.


Anyway here's the latest coming our way.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p ... 806502.ece
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