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if i might paraphrase joeys comments.
has a hard working wife( source of income), not hard enough that he isn't one of the rabid poor, since he redistributes his wifies wealth.
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pip,

Short paraphrases of other peoples comments are about all you are capable of. If you ever came up with something original, the applause would be deafening. Still waiting to hear from your professor. You know, the one who thinks you're a genius.....

I like it that you are expounding on what you think my life is all about. I know that makes you think you are saying something brilliant, but the true facts just show what an idiot you are. The only reason I even exchange posts with you over here, is to keep you from diluting the conversations on the LDM Forum. It's worked great so far.

You wouldn't know a "well founded question" if it bit you in the ass. In your case, that would be anywhere.

Please keep pippin in, as your always good for a laugh.

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poor little joey,me thinks thou protests ...

i save my brilliance for someone who is capable of understanding.

this fixation, that you are the sole source of intelligence and wealth...
sick person. please seek medical care.
mediocre thoughts camouflaged with insults is all you have ever presented.
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Why Not Produce Your Birth Certificate????

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When I traveled outside the country, I had to produce a birth certificate to obtain a passport.

Why is the man who is trying to become President of the United States refusing to produce his? I have read factcheck. That is mentioned in the following vidio:

Subject: BIGGEST October Surprise EVER!

Please click on the YouTube website below for a most important 10 minute video posted yesterday Oct. 11. I believe you will want to share it with others, and watch Fox News This must spread far and wide before November 4.

The October Surprise­Suit To Remove Barack Obama From The Ballot. Barack Obama And The Democratic Nation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w

If you need to, you can do a search on the site for "October surprise".

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ROTHLMAO

SO DESPERATE

paylin must be your sister, twisted bible thumping selective reasoning self righteous

where on earth do these twisted people come from?
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joe,

i don't know where we missed the train with each other. i dont know if i misunderstood what you stated or you missed what i stated. so i will try to explain my positions again.
Sorry lbj, I just don't dance anymore. Thanks for the offer.
i did not offer to dance. i clearly told you i am a lousy dancer. i thought that was a very clear indication that i am not interested in dancing. here is the quote of what i said.
your dance around the question was really not called for because it assumes that i am too dumb to realize that you failed to answer me. i want to discuss issues and philosophies with you but i am a lousy dancer and usually end up stepping all over my partners toes.
anyway lets keep away from emotions and feelings and stick to issues.

you stated

ACORN is not out trying to sign up voters in the suburbs, they are working the homeless and the inner city poor, sometimes the same person for seventy or so times. Socialism is a magnet for many of those people. It's not hard to understand why they are drawn to the Democratic Party.
the facts are that the poor and uneducated are conservative and support the republicans. the educated and intellectuals are the liberals, leftists and socialists. all polls indicated that the lower education, lower income voters support the republicans and the higher educated, higher income voters support obama. that is why i was curious about your income level. you continually denigrate the poor but vote with them.

i confess i am very surprised to see you quoting an atheist to support your position, especially using a quote that is often used to prove that a god does not exist. the quote i am referring to is
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing
over and over again and expecting different results.
you state
I have a problem with a government telling me that poor people must be given homes they can't afford to pay for, and I must pay the mortgage for them.
i dont understand how you can vote for mccain and his new mortgage handouts to the poor.

if you remember i was the one who spoke to you in support of mccain in 2000 and you tore him apart. you even attacked his military service record. if i voted for mccain this year it would be understandable but i am dumbfounded that you are going to vote for someone that you despised in 2000.

in response to your question
Since you believe otherwise, it seems "a well founded question" to ask you exactly how much you donate to the poor each year. How many of the homeless are living in your home? Exactly how much do you donate to the food drives?
nothing. nil, zip, nada. i do not believe in charity. i believe that the underprivileged should not be beholding to my charity. it is a governments responsibility to help the underprivileged become full members of society and have their fair share of the national gdp. upon reflection it is not quite true that i donate nothing to the downtrodden. whenever i come across a panhandler is give him or her a 10 or 20 for some booze or a joint or two. since i live in a wealthy zip code i rarely have the opportunity to help them support their habit. i think its time for the govt to increase my taxes and use the money to provide mental health services to our vets. they should not depend on my charity. i owe my taxes to them.

i asked you what income level you consider poor but did not receive an answer. i my experience any couple making under $70k a year is a member of the poor class. $70 to $250 is middle class and above $250k is well off while over $4 or $5mil is rich. over $100mil is wealthy.

just who are these poor that you have no use for?
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One Sided Quotes......

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lbj,

The reason you are unable to follow our conversation, is that you are reading only the parts you want to, and selectively quoting my comments and replies. When you quote the comments that you have made, and really like, and then only quote partial replies from me, the only person who would be following our conversation and be fooled......would be you.

While the news media lives on sound bites, I exist on the complete exchanges of ideas. In other words, what you have said in your last post, is not nearly so important as what you left out. It may be that you could go back and reread our conversation, and realize what I am talking about. I trust that will be the case.

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Albert Einstein.....

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lbj,

For the record, Albert Einstein was not an "atheist".

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for the record. lol, as if you are the last word on all things. like bush you believe you are god on earth.

read and weep, extracts from einstein and peter bucky.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einbucky.htm

EINSTEIN:

I believe in mystery and, frankly, I sometimes face this mystery with great fear. In other words, I think that there are many things in the universe that we cannot perceive or penetrate and that also we experience some of the most beautiful things in life in only a very primitive form. Only in relation to these mysteries do I consider myself to be a religious man. But I sense these things deeply. What I cannot understand is how there could possibly be a God who would reward or punish his subjects or who could induce us to develop our will in our daily life.

BUCKY:

You don't believe in God, then?

EINSTEIN:

Ah, this is what I mean about religion and science going hand-in-hand! Each has a place, but each must be relegated to its sphere. Let's assume that we are dealing with a theoretical physicist or scientist who is very well-acquaintcd with the different laws of the universe, such as how the planets orbit the sun and how the satellites in turn orbit around their respectivc planets. Now, this man who has studied and understands these different laws-how could he possibly believe in one God who would be capable of disturbing the paths of these great orbiting masses?

No, the natural laws of science have not only been worked out theoretically but have been proven also in practice. I cannot then believe in this concept of an anthropomorphic God who has the powers of interfering with these natural laws. As I said before, the most beautiful and most profound religious emotion that we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. And this mysticality is the power of all true science. If there is any such concept as a God, it is a subtle spirit, not an image of a man that so many have fixed in their minds. In essence, my religion consists of a humble admiration for this illimitable superior spirit that reveals itself in the slight details that we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds
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and more.

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A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1954)
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Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being.
(Albert Einstein, 1936, The Human Side. Responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray.)
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John McCain.......

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lbj,

"if you remember i was the one who spoke to you in support of mccain in 2000 and you tore him apart. you even attacked his military service record. if i voted for mccain this year it would be understandable but i am dumbfounded that you are going to vote for someone that you despised in 2000."

Just for the record, I have never "despised" John McCain. As for remembering, certainly I remember what I said about the man in 2004:
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:31 am Post subject: Hero?

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Wiz,

There are many who would argue that John McCain is no hero. They could be right.

Having served a tour in Vietnam, and having a brother in law who flew missions over North Vietnam, I feel I have a little more insight into what might be considered "heroic" duty in that theater.

John McCain flew 22 missions over North Vietnam before being shot down over Truc Bach Lake, close to Hanoi in 1967. Having spoken to my brother in law, I know what McCain had to fly through to complete his missions. That alone qualifies as "heroic".

McCain was tortured by the North Vietnamese while imprisoned. He may have "broken" under that torture. Heroic? Perhaps not. Not having had to endure that treatment myself, I would not feel qualified to comment.

When given the chance to be released, McCain refused. He would not come home while others who had been in captivity longer than himself were still imprisoned. Considering the torture, I feel that qualifies John as a hero, and the men that went home in his place, may have an opinion.

There has been a great deal written concerning John McCain, both positive and negative. He has written a bit himself. If you are interested, you might look up his book: "Why Courage Matters".

Respectfully,

Joe
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Here's the way I remember it: I did not join the Forum until Sept. 17, 2002. You joined Sept. 4, 2004. Any conversations you remember from 2000 took place in your imagination.

Despite your erroneous understanding of what I think of John McCain, the above post to Wiz states my feeling perfectly.

Any questions?

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Argument From A Nut Case........

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pip,

I see you have run away from a serious discussion on the LDM Forum.....again. Sticking your feral little nose in here, to try to prove you know something.....anything. Your Internet quotes are impressive. It would seem that is the entirety of your intelligence. Copy and paste.

I repeat, Albert Einstein was not an atheist. See if your Internet education can figure out why that statement is true. My guess would be that your answers will be as shallow as you are, and you will end up, once again, standing as close as you dare to the boogyman. :lol:

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poor thing.
you have been proven wrong again.
and typically respond with insult.

feral...
rotflmao
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Insult.....?

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pip,

Is that how you prove your points in class? Quick Internet searchs and you're an expert on any subject?

For tomorrow's assignment, you should go to the library at NAU. See if you can find "Where Darwin Meets the Bible: Creationists and Evolutionists in America" by Larry A. Whitman. Read page 200.

No luck, try: "Science and the Spiritual Quest: New Essays by Leading Scientists" by W. Richardson, Robert Russell, Philip Clayton and Kirk Wegter-Mcnelly.

To save you some work, this is what you will find on page 69:

[Nothing is as important as physics. No human relations, no personal life, are as essential as thought and the comprehension of how “God created the world.” In this phrase so often repeated by Einstein with variations, was his peculiar religious feeling that laws of nature can be formulated simply and beautifully. When he had a new idea he asked himself: “Could God have created the world in this way?” or “Is this mathematical structure worthy of God?”]

If they don't have that book, look for: "Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist" by Paul Arthur Schilpp. Read pages 103 and 660.

To form an opinion of what Einstein was, or was not, you should also do a bit of research into agnosticism and what it means to be an agnostic. You need to study more than a few words on an Internet site to really understand these kinds of things.

There is an art to mixing insult and facts. Normally it is not required, except in special cases. You are such a case. You need to be taught and put in your place at the same time. Eventually both lessons will sink in, unless you are truly brain dead.

It is so obvious that you are playing for time on the San Miguel topic, that it is comical. Who are you pumping for information, one of your professors? 8O I happen to know that it can't be Cooper, as he hasn't a clue about that Church or its bell. Please don't come back with more Internet copy and paste. It does not tell the real story.

If you pay attention, you may actually learn something. That will be especially true if you follow the lesson plan outlined above.

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poor thing

everyone of the people you have degraded in this, and other forums, is superior to anything you have presented.
morally, spiritually, intellectually, academically.

you have failed in every attempt to degrade people who have earned the right to say they are an authority in a subject area.
not once have you made a point, other than to insult your betters.

i didn't run away you punkasssfool. i won. laz, lbj. klon, the numerous people you have attacked, their presentations succeeded, while the only things you post are snide, oblique insults.
not one fact. all self righteous bullshit from you. not one fact, not one insightful analysis.

you continually degrade any source of information other than your own.
Internet research is used in all schools and universities, in fact i took the class punk. the secret is which sites are useful.

you as incapable of understanding the basic premise of any topic, since the bigotry you worship blocks all intellectual process.

you attack the educated, then praise the professor when it fits your twisted world view.
you defend the padres when it meets your needs, then turn your coat and call them liars.
the list of incompetence from you is wicked long.
you have no skill but insult.
you make nothing.
you rob the elderly and damn the poor.

your sick . you are ignorant, and you worship your ignorance.
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School Kids........

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Pip,

Let's see........If I read your post correctly, you could find nothing on the Internet that would counter what I have already said about the Church and its bell. You have bothered your professors, and they told you to piss off, as they have better things to do......like teach.

You did not go to the library as I suggested, because someone else told you that Einstein was an agnostic and not an atheist. My guess is that you did not look into that subject deeper than asking around, because you are just smart enough to realize that you don't really understand most of what you read.

Instead, you come back here with the same empty headed lies and attacks from a position of stupidity. It does no good to present you with facts, because your level of comprehension is inhibited by your own belief that you are a "genius", and thus know everything worth knowing.

Unlike you, I don't pretend to know more than the people who are scholars and write the history books. It is you have insulted those people, and of course I could bring the quotes into this conversation. That would be a waste of time, because you are legally intelligence impaired.

You have mistaken almost every word I have written. Even when I explain the meaning behind them, using plain English, which you also don't understand. It's easy to see why you are still a school boy. It's obvious from the low level of intelligence that you consistently display here, that academia is still trying to spoon feed something/anything into that hollow gourd you call the brain of a "genius". It's a daunting task, even for the folks at NAU.

Let me know if you need more information on Einstein's belief in a deity, or the Church in New Mexico.
Despite your truculence, I don't mind attempting to lighten the load on your professors. No doubt they could use some relief from your constant and mindless chatter.

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somehow you believe the more words you post, the more intelligent you are.
that is not the fact.

everyone you have attacked has asked that you quit adressing them, you continue, even though you flip flop and claim they go out of their way to attak you.

you have no skills
you have little education.
all you have is some delusion that only you have the facts.

it is sad to see you squirm around the fact and topic, and play your snide six grader games.

any post you make is is composed of selfrighteous snobbery.
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Genius?????

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"six grader"???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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pippinwhitepaws wrote:somehow you believe the more words you post, the more intelligent you are.
that is not the fact.

everyone you have attacked has asked that you quit addressing them, you continue, even though you flip flop and claim they go out of their way to attack you.

you have no skills
you have little education.
all you have is some delusion that only you have the facts.

it is sad to see you squirm around the fact and topic, and play your snide six grader games.

any post you make is is composed of selfrighteous snobbery.
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Credibility.......

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Pip,

Rest assured that I have no problem with anyone who stumbles on this particular forum, or any of the others, judging my posts against yours. The level of intelligence and knowledge will be obvious to a majority of those people.

It's good that you are happy with your less than sub-par responses here. You will be able to look back and comfort yourself with what a fool you made of me, as you continue your life of abject failure and haplessness.

Anything that I have done to help you along was worth the effort. :lol:

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poor thing. do seek medical care.
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you actually believe that the shit you post is god's own words.

your are one sick mother fucker.

fact: no matter how much you insult the educated, intelligent people who disagree with you, does not make them the substandard person in the conversation.

now, go dream about uncle dropshisweapon bending you over the stump.

seek medical attention soon.
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Small Talk......

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pip,

There was a time when you seemed to have something you were attempting to say. Of late, you have been reduced to incoherent babble with the only clarity coming from your four-letter words. I used to enjoy sparring with you, but this has turned into a one-man show.

I seem to be the only person here who want's to exchange ideas with you. That exchange is getting so one-sided that I am starting to believe that you have no ideas whatsoever.

Not long ago, I received an email from a man I have never met. He felt compelled to comment of what goes on here. I know his background now, and it's something you should aspire to be.

Here is part of what he wrote about you and some of your missing partners:
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"These folks are disgruntled, low self esteem, stuck in the 60's, loser, crybabies. They have nothing better to do than complain and whine and try to denigrate others that don't agree with them completely. They are now on the downhill journey of their lives and they recognize that their accomplishments/rewards are not what they thought they were entitled to, or should have been handed. Mostly, due to their own machinations and poor choices, things just didn't work out. So they take it out on others in whatever way they can. Down deep is a burning resentment and hatred of others, successful folks, who have busted their butts all their lives, and are now enjoying a modicum of success in the "golden years". While they, on the other hand, are now reaping their own well deserved rewards. A perfectly resounding, textbook example of the "Tale Of The Grasshopper And The Ant." They never understood that it's not what life deals you, but how you deal with what you're dealt. What you make of yourself.

The only time they feel in charge is when they are on the forum, at a comfortable distance of course, running their mouth, spewing their vitriolic sermon. Their own little bully pulpit if you will. The rest of their lives they are just another cipher. A zero. And they hate it. In their mind they feel that they have never been recognized for being so much more. They were never allowed to rise to the pinnacle of greatness to which they aspired..... And deserved. The ubiquitous "THEY" kept them down all their miserable little lives. The "RICH MAN" purloined their birthright to greatness. All the while they are unable to look in the mirror and face the real reason, staring right back at them, for their lack of accomplishment. Hence the self medication you so rightly drag into the light of day.

I truly feel for people who through no fault of their own are in dire straights and I am more than willing to help where I am able. I do this willingly. I don't however, lift one finger to help people who through their own choices and actions, now have to live in the bed they themselves have made. All the while blaming others for their own poor judgement and dire straights."
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His words were so spot on, that I felt I should pass them along. He, along with many others who don't post, have no wish to become a target for those of you who's lives are filled with hate. I often get these types of email's, but his are the most eloquent and accurate.

Perhaps one day, when you reach your goals, which seem impossibly high for your limited ability, you will both end up at the same University. I know that probably seems like a long shot to you right now, but with perseverance it may be possible.

I have enjoyed our little talks, but your side of the conversation has grown a bit weak.

Take care,

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just because you believe something, does not make it true.

i have never been a control freak. that is a fixation held by you and the other self proclaimed experts.

a true revolutionary is motivated by love not hate, and i love my country.
that's why the us is sending me interest on the blank check i wrote to uncle sam.

i have watched so many people from other places, come to arizona and make money on their self proclaimed expertize about the superstitions.
make up a legend and sell a book.
you fall into that category.
a self proclaimed expert. gossip. a vicious hater who blames his prey.

i see you must not have friends at treasurenet, they won't put up with your bullshit. when you do post, 99% of the folks ignore your shit.
i also notice you again only have degratory statements to post.
and not one of the posts you make have factual basis, you haunt the areas that are open to weird interpretations...joey is an expert on Atlantis, the lost Dutchman, Jesuits, well, just ask punkassjoey if you want the universal conscientiousness issue settled.

anyone who reads my posts will know that i have a rather proletarian background, and unlike you, a respectable education.
i am a social and cultural historian, who is allowed to stand before other historians and claim to be an authority in the field.
not a self proclaimed expert fuckface, i have the papers.
to any friend of yours...look in a mirror. i bet the description fit what you see

again, this punkass behavior you so thrive on only reappeared when you heard i wasn't coming to the meet.
that makes you a coward on top of it all.
fuck you and anyone like you.
you are the enemy of freedom and equality.
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