Yellow Jackets

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby klondike » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:06 am

Hello Roy,

Would also like to wish you a happy and prosperous New Year also.

Earlier the prediction was made that a ldm will be found this year. That is appropriate now that we are not here.

I suspect other things will be found this year. Will they be understood. I suspect maybe, maybe not. Perhaps then some will return to the library here to find what has always been in front of them. Some have never left.

Small stone maps will perhaps first be thought of as Jesuit only later will they be understood as something far more fundamental. Perhaps they are maps of the range that were created long, long ago. Maps that were used as guides and supplements to the map room of Oz. Maps that would take you from the primary trail systems in the Superstitions to such places as mining operations and armories on Bluff Spring Mountain. For now they will sit silently in the carnival and valued only in their smallest part. One day they will lead the searchers to a sacred place, and also mines on Malapaias Mountain.

This dialogue while enjoyable has now come to an end. For the most part they have been enjoyable. I will leave you with one final thought. More honesty is found in becoming than in holding on. Perhaps one day you will see the Bent/Mcgee Correspondence and experience a revealing. Its current owners primary interest is to hold on to what they cannot understand. I could be wrong but I have never seen the correspondence out there only cryptic references to its contents. Perhaps its owners also wish to make a movie. :lol:

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Joe Ribaudo » Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:18 pm

Roy,

As usual, Ben is building his story around others finds. He has been doing it since day one. Ryan is in the process of putting together a TV special, and Ben is trying to use his work to bolster his own tale. It's a very old game, that gets busier when school's out. :lol:

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Oroblanco » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:24 pm

Joe Ribaudo wrote:Roy,

As usual, Ben is building his story around others finds. He has been doing it since day one. Ryan is in the process of putting together a TV special, and Ben is trying to use his work to bolster his own tale. It's a very old game, that gets busier when school's out. :lol:

Take care,

Joe


Yes I see. TV would be a great venue for this story of Calalus/Oz/Atlantis, I would think Hollywood would jump at it.

klondike wrote:Hello Roy,

Would also like to wish you a happy and prosperous New Year also.

Earlier the prediction was made that a ldm will be found this year. That is appropriate now that we are not here.

I suspect other things will be found this year. Will they be understood. I suspect maybe, maybe not. Perhaps then some will return to the library here to find what has always been in front of them. Some have never left.

Small stone maps will perhaps first be thought of as Jesuit only later will they be understood as something far more fundamental. Perhaps they are maps of the range that were created long, long ago. Maps that were used as guides and supplements to the map room of Oz. Maps that would take you from the primary trail systems in the Superstitions to such places as mining operations and armories on Bluff Spring Mountain. For now they will sit silently in the carnival and valued only in their smallest part. One day they will lead the searchers to a sacred place, and also mines on Malapaias Mountain.

This dialogue while enjoyable has now come to an end. For the most part they have been enjoyable. I will leave you with one final thought. More honesty is found in becoming than in holding on. Perhaps one day you will see the Bent/Mcgee Correspondence and experience a revealing. Its current owners primary interest is to hold on to what they cannot understand. I could be wrong but I have never seen the correspondence out there only cryptic references to its contents. Perhaps its owners also wish to make a movie. :lol:

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If you are hinting that I am being dishonest, you are way off base. Funny you waited until I quit, to return and post another "final thought".

Happy new year to you both,
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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Joe Ribaudo » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:02 pm

Roy,

How many times does that make that Ben has "left the building"? Got to be 20-30. It's become painfully obvious that Africa can't hold Ben, assuming it ever had him. :lol:

Surprised he has never seen the Bent/McGee letters. There's no secret there. 8O

Take care,

Joe

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Re: Yellow Jackets

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Joe Ribaudo » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:27 am

klondike wrote:http://dnaconsultants.com/tucson-artifacts-story-of-pre-columbian-roman-colony-verified-by-archeology/#comment-129


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Hello Ben,

Hope all is well with you and your family.

Is there some new evidence, or just the same old rehash? Other than your secret location of OZ, there is no archaeological evidence of these people having lived here. Perhaps the evidence you removed to South Africa should be revealed to the world......Why not? :?

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Oroblanco » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:43 pm

Wow what a surprise to see new activity here. I have to echo Joe's words, hope all is well with you Ben and your move went like clockwork. Interesting article you provided a link for. However I am left with doubts - for instance one image of a petroglyph of an Indian warrior compared to a Roman, would work just as well for a Greek or Phoenician hoplite or maybe even a Zulu warrior. A bit hazy in making the leap that it HAS to be Roman in my opinion.

I would like to see some documentation from the supposed point of departure of this quasi-Roman colony. I am not aware of any such large expedition departing from what would have been the Byzantine empire in that time period. Nor any expeditions for the purposes of exploration. They were just too concerned with the ongoing wars of the time. The wars could have been the impetus for an exodus of refugees just as we see today from Syria, but this exodus like most of them is well documented. Even in the time of the Romans, we have records of the mass movements of peoples, which led to incursions into their empire and in some cases becoming a part of that empire as with the Goths. So where is any mention of the departure of a whole fleet of ships from the Mediterranean, passing the strait of Gibraltar and carrying a whole colony of people?

Ben you know that with several of the other cultures or civilizations that lay claim to have reached the Americas long before Columbus we have some record from the Old world to support it. So with St Brendan we have a text describing his voyage, or with Madog the story of his exodus with a whole colony, and likewise for Carthage, although in that case the colony was later withdrawn by order of their senate. What record is there from the Old World to fit the Calalus colony?

Anyway thanks again Ben for the interesting article, can't agree with their conclusions but not the first time I have issues with archaeology and historians for that matter. I hope all is well with you Joe, keep cool and don't over-do things in the heat. I need to learn that lesson myself. (haha)
Roy
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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Joe Ribaudo » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:32 pm

Hi Roy,

Just wiped out an entire post.

Hope all is well with you, Beth and the pups. Saw that Beth was having some serious problems recently. Trust that is all behind you now.

Ben gets the urge to post something every time he gets a little bored. School break, I assume. Logic is not something that works very well with him, but it's good to see you still trying. The only picture he has ever posted was of a mine in Nevada he was trying to pass off as the LDM? Once it was easily found and posted as being a copy from the Internet, he tried to leave it behind.

As we have always maintained, it's been an interesting ride, much like reading Gulliver's Travels and other such fictions.

Take care,

Joe

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby klondike » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:52 pm

Gentlemen:

Star Charts, who knew.

Only a Jesuit would think this begins and ends with n8p.

So what is the it that all of this leads to. To find that you would have to answer the when. The when takes you to the beginning and end: Circlestone.

Of course the mystery will be solved but it will only cover a deeper mystery, To begin that journey you need to understand the Greek symbology that is there and precedes all that our religious friends believe. Of course to understand that requires you to step back and face the fact that what is holy in the Superstitions has always been the prize, not what was later put into the range and removed. Only a weak mind believes this is about precious metals. Sesame Street thinking.

As Plato would say all that follows is simply footnotes and not very important ones at that.

Merry Christmas and happy new year.

May the stars keep you safe.

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby Joe Ribaudo » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:20 am

Ben,

Good to see you are still paying attention. I assume classes are out for the Christmas/New Year holidays. Is there a book nearing publication?

In any case, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.

Take care,

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby klondike » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:46 pm

Mr. Ribaudo,

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and yours.

Seems odd that folks discount the trail maps as a true representation of the range when it is obvious they tell us so much about what is fundamental there. Your work should give anyone pause in discrediting the maps as merely a convoluted fiction of someone's imagination aimed at deception. The trail maps are in fact a snapshot in time of something very, very ancient and the simple fact that subsequent maps were produced to lead folks elsewhere should suggests the danger they poise to that which is sacred.

The Mcgee`s understood this and in their dialogue with Bent surfaced the existence of things in the range that are still hidden from re-discovery. A canyon with ancient writing and other things. A discovery on Bluff Springs Mountain.

It is true that the ground of an understanding of the range exists in the stars, it is not true that the Jesuits or those who have stumbled upon their efforts ever opened the gate to an ancient past.

As we say may the stars keep you safe. They keep their secrets though and wait for those who can truly see. The first who saw were starmen.

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby klondike » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:45 am

Gentlemen:

Perhaps a thought will put all of the current silliness in perspective.

If anyone thinks the Jesuits will honestly help anyone regarding fundamentally damaging information to their order is well nuts. The Church has been in and out of the Superstitions for longer than you can imagine and their driving goal was not to stash something but to keep something from being revealed. A mission of destruction. That mission failed. :D

They will lead the current cast of Sesame Street to a house of mirrors and spin then like a top and take any information they feel important back to their own cave.

One scroll in the library is a testament to a man and his family and where that family ended up that if published would destroy well you get the picture. Perhaps folks should spend more time trying to really understand what was really at the encampment surrounding the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone.


Have a good year.

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby oldpueblo70 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:13 pm

For the most part, I understand the magnitude and complexity of the subject matter. I also know that it is more important than the precious medals involved. For those who can see and believe, it seems that progressing further with you is an exercise in futility. The lack of follow through is surprising. A real shame and definitely disappointing. Happy new year to all.

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby oldpueblo70 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:21 pm

"metals"

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby klondike » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:43 pm

Hello Mr. K

Perhaps old habits die slowly.

But what is it that is worthy of understanding. A good place to start is Hidden Mountain, New Mexico. As you may know recent comments have been made that refer to the importance of understanding the stone maps and their relationship to star charts. It seems some believe this activity was limited to the Jesuits. In actuality this is not the case. There are a number of suspects but the one most promising to examine is the star chart on Hidden Mountain, very close to the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone. These star charts document the presence of Hebrews on the site on September 15, 107 B.C. during a solar eclipse. What is also important is to understand the path of the eclipse as it passed over another important site on the same day.

Other items on the mountain need additional work because they speak to the mechanics of the star charts that were used as the ground for the trail maps. Also to the importance of Greek symbology in their creation. A symbology that more moderns folks pass right over.

Then did the descendants of the expedition to New Mexico and others return at a later date to create Circlestone and well many other things. The answer to that question is yes. And furthermore given a knowledge of the area by Hebrews as far back as 107 B.C. is it possible or probable that another mission came forth from the Middle East to spread the word .Perhaps a clue can be found in one of the most overlooked passages of the Critias that points to this:

"In the beginning the gods agreed to divide the earth by lot in a friendly manner, and when they had made the allotment they settled their several countries, and were the shepherds or rather the pilots of mankind, whom they guided by persuasion, and not by force."

A shepherd came forth from the middle east to serve mankind with the word. And a sheperd`s people who had access to things that led them to HIdden Mountain. And later other things would led the people to the Superstition Mountains and Horse Mesa, a journey that would also take Coronado and his priests to Coronado Mesa.

Good luck in your journeys and may the stars keep you safe.

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Re: Yellow Jackets

Postby oldpueblo70 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:15 pm

Klondike, pm sent