Jesuit tresure and Charles Polzer S.J.

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alan m
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Jesuit tresure and Charles Polzer S.J.

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Hello everyone
Thought I might spice up the pot a bit, it seems that the other blog sites are getting more attention than this one and I find it difficult to keep up here let alone join three others.
Many researchers place considerable worth on statments made by the late Charles Polzer concerning the existance of Jesuit activity in the Superstition Mountains.
Polzer claimed that with a few exceptions, the Jesuits did not venture north of the Gila River. It is these few exceptions that merit consideration.
In the book titled "Before Rebellion, Letters & Reports of Jacobo Sedelmayer,S.J."
Translated by Daniel S Matson and Published by Arizona Historical Society Tucson.
This book is a must for anyone who wants to find out the truth about Jesuit activities North of the Gila River. It is a collection of letters written just prior to the Pima rebellion of 1751. Sedelmayer describes his own journey's north of the Gila and there are numerous respons to request by his superiors for such trips into the territory north.
Even though the King of Spain had made the area north off limits.
In one of the letters is described a trip that took the travelers through the center of the Superstitions to the Salt River. It is still no smoking gun but Polzer must have been familier with this work.
It is also in this book that a copy of one of Juan Nentvigs Maps can be seen, it is this map which is housed at the Naval museum in Madrid Spain, which is different than the other one which was embellished by Father Middendorf.
Just a closing note on the ststement by Polzer concerning the authenticity of the stone maps, found in Robert Sikorsky's book "Quest for the Dutchmans Gold"
This treatment , or attempt to discredit the tablets is a desperate one.
There is evidence that disputes Polsers claims that the tablets are a poor fake.
Polzers position that the fact of the stones milled surface clearly indicates that it could not have been accomplished by a pioneer in the wild. A SMOKE SCREEN!
First, The Egyptians milled stone much harder than sandstone 5000 years ago!
Second Polzer supposes that the stones were made "on-site".
The level of sophistication implies that the stone tablets were made in a civilized local. like Santa Fe.
Polzer ststes that the design of the cross is of 20th century design. MORE SMOKE
If you visit the Mission of Tumacacori, in the museum you will see a silver cross excavated from the mission Guevavi which was abandoned in the mid 1700's. That cross design is identical to the designs of the crosses on the tablets.
Polzers position on the spelling of the words and the vocabulary are correct for Mexico but NOT FOR SPAIN...Is it getting a little smokey in here?
The royal spanish had specific spellings and vocabulary for thier language.
The common use of V or B in the case of the word Bereda or Vereda applies only to the Mexican. The Spanish born citizen considered themselves distinctly seperate from all others in Mexico, this class system is in fact what led to the revolution in Mexico after the Spanish relinquished authority in 1822.
Finnaly I would love to see this CHILDRENS BOOK he speaks of depicting the horse on the Tablets... Has anyone seen this.. I can't see a thing because of all this smoke.
Best Regards to you all
Alan
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