Lost Dutchman Goldmine

don,

You certainly have been here a long time, much longer than I. You know the subject matter very well, and have earned the right to be critical. All being said, I certainly could learn something about diplomacy from these guys.

cuzzinjack

Hello Jim, Your knowledge and deduction of the Ruth affair is to be commended. There does seem that some dastardly deeds were done, and had no idea that there were so many moving parts to the story. It is thought that one of reasons that the Spanish maps were hard to follow is the seemingly odd tech...

don, How unrelenting and artful your attempts have been to “turn out the lights” with 343 posts… It is not understood how the Ruth story grew legs like it did. He was simply a treasure hunter that died looking for the LDM, a frail one at that, IMO. If he was murdered, the deed was done by another tr...

Hello Cubfan, You aren't off topic at all....... My dad read a lot on the subject and it was rumored that Marco Polo sailed down the coast of America on a Chinese ship. The Chinese were great seafarers, and their skills have went unnoticed. I have been reading more about the subject of the Acapulco-...

If the Peralta mines produced so much gold, why are there not records of shipments or rumors of large gold shipments from north of New Spain? This is a great mystery, because unless the Peraltas stacked the bars somewhere (much more than is rumored), the incredibly rich mines didn’t exist. Certainly...

don, According to Ely, Ruth's skull was positively identified by Ruth's own dentist, so the skull was his. The way Ely describes it, the skeleton of Ruth's body was found on the same brushy ridge overlooking West Boulder Canyon where his skull was found. Ruth was frail, and it would seem that if he ...

Joe,

Is it just a coincidence that this is what the comparison of the Del Monte photo and photo3 taken from Cerro Negra looks like? Photo3 was posted in the Salazar Survey thread. Should Ruth have backed up a couple miles?



cuzzinjack

Hi Klondike, Thank you sir; that means a lot. 5 pairs of boots, 3 loupes, 4 backpacks, 3 rock hammers, 3 computers, 2 pickup trucks, 14 years, and we are here. Speaking of sailing in Arizona, it is amazing that Hernando de Alarcon commanded 3 ships to sail up the Sea of Cortez and up the Colorado Ri...

For pre-Columbian mines to produce the quantity of high-fineness gold the Aztecs possessed (and the immense treasure Cortez lost) with stone tools, it is reasoned that only very rich surface supergene deposits were mined. This type of ore, some assaying as much as hundreds of ounces of Au per ton wa...

Hi Oroblanco, It is very good to see your posts. I've been working on a post for the "Chichilticale" thread off and on; have learned some new things about where there were many pits indicated by seismic survey. There is one more test that must be performed to confirm or deny that there was...

I dug out a boxed-up mineral collection from the shed to find a good example of golden Barite. The below photo is of a piece of Barite from the Black Cloud Mine in Leadville, Colorado. The orebodies at the Cloud were massive sulphide replacement deposits in dolomite that typically ran 8% Zn, 4% Pb, ...

In Canada, over 400 significant VMS deposits have been found, and they have been divided into 5 types and one sub-type. The type of deposit is determined by the type of “donor materials” that were present. The diagram below depicting all of them is compliments of “VOLCANOGENIC MASSIVE SULPHIDE DEPOS...

The author would have never had a clue about quadrant bearings, and could not have solved the Salazar mystery if it wasn’t from previous experience. The author learned to survey with a transit, the old school way, in 1979 and 1980 in both surface and underground environments. Below is a picture of a...

An idea was hatched to check into the declination subject a little further, on a local scale……… All 20 of the mining claims that are staked on the Molly Marie caldera have their sidelines laid out at N20W, and the end lines are laid out at N70E. These bearings are based off of true north and NAD27 c...

There is a thin layer of blocky, welded volcanic tuff on top of Cerro Negra and on its east side that is about 5 feet thick. A photo of the location where the boulders were quarried is below. Only one large boulder and a couple of smaller ones were left behind. The contact between the tuff and the b...

Hello hiker, I misspoke with the word “holy”. The fact that 40 Chiracahua women filled a shaft to the brim with large boulders and then sealed it over does not make the place holy, but the act itself commands respect. To literally quarry the boulders from up above and roll them down is quite an achi...

Hello hiker, I misspoke with the word “holy”. The event where 40 Chiracahua women filled the 100-foot deep shaft to the brim with large boulders and then sealed it over does not make the place holy, but the act itself commands respect. To literally quarry the boulders from up above and roll them dow...

Hello hiker and Joe, I do not know why I got out in the weeds in the first place by writing "Chichilticale". Probably because there are some big facets to the Coronado expedition that were overlooked. Somewhere along the way, the Chiracahua gained control of the Superstitions area, and all...

Hello Hiker, Those are some very good links that you have found. I agree with you on the Aztecs not mining here, but they may have had a broker or advisor role. I've read that even the Aztecs stayed very clear of the Yaquis, and an Aztec force moving through their territory that seemed threatening m...

Hi Joe, It is good to see a post from you! What is most interesting about this thread is the first post by Dr. Glover with the excerpt from the book "Arizona, the Last Frontier", and his recognition that it came from you. I bought the book after I read the excerpt many years ago, and found...

For those of you not familiar, “The Salazar Survey” is an account by Clay Worst about attempts in 1949 to find the meaning of maps and photos brought to Arizona by Cristobal Peralta in 1924. Only the happenings in 1924 are discussed here. This story is in Dr. Glover’s book, “Treasure Tales of the Su...

Another sample of the sand from First Water Canyon was gathered (a Ryobi+ vacuum may be good for this) and was processed, but with different procedures. • Most of the light-colored material was panned off. • A magnet was used to remove the magnetite from the black sand that remained. Only manganese ...

To make absolutely certain that this was an old placer, an experiment was performed. Sample holes in the bedrock swales where the deepest sand and cobbles reside were not attempted; shallow patches of sand were found that were 3 to 6 inches deep and the sand was scraped back until black sand was rev...

Continuing from the second to last thread, Chichilticale, 2 glaring questions remain unanswered: • The first is, was there pre-Spanish gold mining in the Superstitions area? • The second question is seemingly unrelated, but will be explained within: Where are the rich placers that are shown on some ...

Hello hiker,

Was just ready to make a post and saw this that you posted an hour ago. This is excellent stuff, and dovetails with what will be uploaded next.

cuzzinjack