Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Hello Paul, 1. Tycho Monolith 2. "My God it is full of Stars" 3. "Something is going to happen. Something wonderful". Hello Mr. Ribaudo, Sorry I did not see your post until today. I attend the air races up here and as you know we had a real tragedy yesterday. Great group of folks...

Hello Paul, Perhaps the answer to a question might illuminate your journey into the Superstitions. Why is it that the earth sign that I mentioned references the third dot from the sun burst and the pattern continues on the second stone map. On the second trail map the earth sign appears beside the t...

Hello Paul,

You are correct. Good catch. Long day. The mind not mine is a terrible thing to lose.

Klondike is in the field right now. I am rather tied down for the moment.

Ben

Mr. Ribaudo, Having shared too much there is no real danger in going a bit further. Determining what the ancients knew of the stars is a crap shoot. I would not underestimate the capacity of early man to understand far more than he is generally thought to have known. Having stood in the other and se...

Mr. Ribaudo, Perhaps I should clarify a few things about the maps. The Circle within a circle as you call it and the starburst as we call it can be understood as the sun. The sign of a circle within a circle is a well known symbol for the sun in ancient times. The third well dot from the circle with...

Hello Mr. Ribaudo, While such a discussion would be interesting, at this point in time nothing would be served by such a dialogue. Oz is gone. It really is that simple. We do not have the resources necessary to care for both the underground workings of Calalus and Oz. Having said that her treasures ...

Hello Mr. Ribaudo, Imagine folks can settle the character issues on their own. I would not get down on someone trying to make a little money off of a find like this. After all he wasn`t beheading folks and pitching their remains off of Blacktop. Have to say I admire a man who sticks with something a...

Hello Mr. Ribaudo, Enjoyed reading your responses. Just wanted to mention to folks a text they might find interesting to look into is the work, "The Tucson artifacts: a narrative report of the discovery, the unearthing and the failure of the subsequent investigations to solve this mystery"...

Hello Paul,

We know you believe in Oz, just let things happen.

Klondike

Hello Somehiker, Dog just said to say the alpha to the answer of your question is, "When you wish upon a star". The Omega is, "My God it is full of stars". You see coded within the trail maps is a star chart. At least within the original and complete set. The current rendition of...

Hello Paul, Remember what we have always said you have to believe in Oz to see it. That bears repeating. You have to believe in Oz to see it. :D Years ago in one of my first visits to the range I participated in a dig in the Canyon of the Souls, in the vicinity of Oz and the other. I was working a s...

And you are probably right. Goblins and Orks inhabit the caves and tunnels of Coronado Mesa, and a few refugees from the movie, "Deliverance' are hiding out in Fish Creek Canyon. By all means avoid both areas. With the Deliverance crew in there the least of your worry`s is getting injured. :D G...

Roy,

This is pointless.

Happy trails and may the stars keep you safe.

Ben

Roy, The post by Starman pretty much answers your questions. The specific illusion of the maps is that the were created by the same folks. They were not. A lot of work has been done in the Superstitions and elsewhere to help that illusion. Trails, signs, etc., all created with a purpose. Of course S...

Somehiker, Does your solution to the Stone Maps suggest that others are wrong? Or does it show that there are a number of solutions, all valid and correct. The answer is the later. And none of them will lead you to the end of the trail. The end of the trail in the Superstitions is gone. Enjoy your g...

Hello Randy,

Larry was a dutch hunter and more. I really enjoyed our conversations.

He understood, as klondike indicated, that the stone maps are multi-dimensional and take you to different locations in the range, and in the immediate area. Believe his primary area of interest was Maliapi.

Ben

Hello Randy, Rhodesia was a beautiful county a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. I only visited a few times. A real shame what has happened. Klondike is in the field, and not available for a few months. Sorry to hear about Larry Webb. Sure he was a fine man. A really interesting person. Fasci...

Hello Joe, Hello Roy, The two of you should have taken the time to read Esperanza. Or if you have read it taken the time to understand it. On page 60 is a letter that attests that The Dutchman`s last name was Waltzer. On page 148 is a clue that even the clueless can appreciate. The library of Oz no ...

Hello Mr. Johnson, I cannot tell you how much I have enjoyed your posts. It is a real pleasure to read your observations. Not so much because we agree on most points, we do, it is just a dialogue is only possible if there is an open and honorable effort to find the truth. You indicated in your closi...

Mr. Johnson,

It was a real pleasure to read your comments on the Gold. As I indicated before they will stand the test of time.

And you are right what others believe is not really importent. Thanks for that lesson.

Klondike

Hello Gentlemen, As always you are free to believe whatever it is you wish to believe. Having said that it is importent to realize there were boundaries to this discussion that were in place before it started. For example the discussion of the crystal deposit and its ramifications was iniatiated wit...

Gentlemen, When this dialogue began it was fairly obvious that Joe was the bad cop and Roy was the good cop. As this became clear I was really interested to see if a productive dialogue would occure. Needless to say that was not the case. Like Klondike I too am out of here. From what I can see the n...

Hello Roy,

There is nothing to really add.

Nothing is nothing. Just like the nothing of mesothermal quartz. Just a zero.

Good luck on your book. A shame. A real shame.

Respectfully,

B

Hello Roy, That is quite a number of assertions. Let`s see what we have here: "Ah yes those un-substantiated claims of tellurides again. I suppose those ancients were mining telluride 1000 years ago too". Roy did you ever suspect I make statements like that to simply give you a chance to e...

Hello Roy, You are free to believe what you will. Questions that are continually asked and continually answered lead no where but to a circle. What you seem to require is a level of proof that the subject matter does not allow in the public domain other than to present sound geological reasoning bas...