Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Larry, Some nice work. I had certainly not spotted the 1535 date on the ship side of the stone. I also suspect you are on to something regarding the correlation between 1535 date on the stone and the appointment of Mendosa as the first Viceroy of New Spain in 1535. It seems to become more apparent t...

After the chimney, Joe continued our tour. He took us to a shallow road cut that exposed some very soft sandstone. It looked like everyone in the neighborhood had carved their name and it was probably 150 yards long. It looked like it weathered very quickly and older carvings had not survived. There...

Mike, One thing I have not been able to get my arms around was when and how Travis got the maps back from Uncle Bob. It was sometime after 1956, if the Gene Dais timeline is correct. I am positive that the Gene Davis story is spot on. When I mentioned that there may be another shoe dropping , I was ...

Mike and Joe, You guys have been busy. :D First I want to encourage everyone to read what I have written in more depth. I have repeated on more than one occasion that it was Larry Webb who first approached Janie. I have also said that a short time after meeting Janie in 2008, Carol and I thought she...

I had kind of hoped to finish relating the account of our tour with Joe on February 16, 2011, but I also want to try and address some of the questions raised by Alan and Mike. I don’t want anyone to believe I’m ignoring their concerns. While I doubt that my thoughts will move anyone much, I will off...

These photos are from different sections of the Chimney and you may want to refer back to the cartoon for orientation. Travis was born in 1910 and he would have been about 13 or 14 when he dated the carvings. This first photo is an overview of Travis's “mural”. You may have to download the photo and...

You guys are all too easily swayed. :) We met Joe a couple of days later and away we went. We had been aware of the chimney site for a few years but the image that I had conjured up in my mind was a far cry from what we encountered. I had an image of a chimney that was cobble stone construction with...

It took a while to relocate Janie but I finally came up with a candidate. It was only an address. In December of 2008, Carol and I showed up at the front door. It was Janie and her husband. They had purchased a new home and were putting in a new floor but they graciously invited us in and we explain...

A day or so later, after Larry’s sojourn to south Texas, he called Janie and told her that he was interested in the Stone Maps. Janie said, ”Oh yes, Travis carved them!” Larry was certainly taken aback that she was so forthcoming and I’m sure that he was disappointed. When he told me the story, I as...

Shortly after returning from Texas (March 2006), we came in contact with two individuals who were critical in our follow-up research activity, Larry Dean Webb and Bernice McGee. It’s impossible to give them enough credit or overstate their contributions. It was Larry who located and contacted Janie ...

My wife and I have been researching the history of the stone maps for over five years and there comes a point when it seems prudent to go ahead and share what we have found. There will always be another lead to run down or another piece of evidence to collect and document. The research has been both...

Randy, Larry and Somehiker Friday, after reading the posts, I walked away feeling like I had a pretty good handle on the location and story behind Willow Springs. I come back and now I have “three” different Willow Springs we are dealing with and Somehiker was even tossing a possible fourth location...

Joe, You didn’t mean to reference Garry in your previous post. It was Larry’s post. 8O Since you have my attention you will get my 2 cents. When the thread you have referenced or another one on the same subject was being discussed, my impression was that one of the ways Aurum was tying the Adolph Ru...

Paul, Go to the LDM Documents page, Adolph Ruth. and Search on the Arizona Republic and Phoenix Gazette (Summer 1931) for MORSE. According to one account I believe it mentions that Mrs. Ruth sent the offer of the $100 reward to Morse. He apparently then took it to the Phoenix authorities. (From Memo...

Mike, I believe the answer to the Jacob Weiser origin is not quite as simple as Sims Ely inserting a story in a book written in 1953. :) If you ever have chance, you might like to read a couple of articles that Steve Creager wrote following the trail of how some of the elements of the Lost Dutchman ...

Thomas, I’m not sure how much research you want to invest in the skull story but I doubt anything definitive will be revealed. I suspect stories like this evolve with people adding and removing elements over time. I would be very surprised is the any skull survived. 8O I did NOT run across some of t...

Gee Paul, you could have at least have corrected my spelling of Dannemann! You will notice that in Corbin’s manifest, many of the immigrants were from Horb Wurttemberg and Nagold, Wurttemberg. Waltz was supposedly from Horb and Nagold??. I believe all of these entries were in support of the Waltz or...

Paul, Go ahead and post your list, (we don't need any more cross-eyed treasure hunters!) To humor me, give the Schmidts a passing notice. I know they weren't in your original list and the name is common and their origin is different but Schmidt is an important name in the overall tale. :) Also you m...

Guys, I just reread this thread and it was a trip down memory lane. Bill, Murphy, Greg, Steve, Joe, Redison, Roger and several others. Sadly, some are no longer with us. Although I have done a lot of additional research on the Olbers and associated events, since my initial post almost 6 years ago, t...

Thomas, This is an area I have not researched but from a couple of posts that appeared on Peter’s Forum, I got the impression that the story was far from cut and dried. The only reason I have any familiarity with the story is because I have recently been reading some Dane Coolidge books and in Arizo...

Guys, I’m just now got the glitch again but I did a refresh and everything looks fine? Not sure what’s going on. BTW, I have never given much credence to the theory that someone made a second set of “stone” maps. I had trouble with the mechanics of fabricating duplicate stone maps without using some...

Is anyone else experiencing an occasional glitch when viewing the forum posts? Every so often when someone posts a picture and someone responds, the responder’s post appears empty but the text is on the face of the previous photo. I just had that happen this morning when Mike’s last post window show...

Wayne,

Thanks for the thoughtful and tasteful reply!

Garry

Mike, Put your match away before you catch something afire. :) From the BLM site - The TUFFY#2 was filed by Monte Edwards and Al Reser in Pinal County on November 7, 1983. (You will recognize the names) Of course this claim is now closed. Meridian 14 Township 0010 N Range 0100 E Section 08 NW I used...

Mike, I would be very cautious about putting the artifacts found by Robert Tumlinson, in the “Fact” column. The Hainer’s never saw these artifacts and they were never mentioned in the Peck letters by Robert. Also Robert apparently never mentioned anything like this to the Davis brothers. It is clear...