Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Joe, Thanks for the reference, I am familiar with Dr. Bolton I have his book " Rim of Christendom " about Kino. I will see if I can get the book from Asu, reading what you posted was intersting. What do you think about the King of Spain at the time of the expulsion? I mean, who was advisin...

Joe, Actually I choose a poor chice of a word in " obvious ", I guess what I should have said was it " appears " to me that is what happened, there is so much to read on this subject and it all kinda gives you the same image as to what may have happened, while I know as you say t...

Joe, I have not seen any documentation that actually says they were mistreated by the Jesuit's, I just happen to feel that is what caused them to rebell when they did. I dont claim to know what happened back then but it is obvious they did in fact enslave indians and mistreat them. I have no documen...

Joe, In the Arizona Mines and minerals Museum there are two silver bars with Kino's name on one of them dated 1697. They are on loan to the museum from someone. It says these bars were used for trading back then.When I first saw them I thought to myself there is the proof right here that they were e...

Joe, I have only seen one book that actually mentions mines, it is " Rudo Ensayo " It was writtenh by Juan Nentvig, a Jesuit Priest describing the area of Sonora and Arizona in 1764. In chapter V entitled " Indian Tribes of Sonora " he goes into detail describing all the bad qual...

Knun, Joe Thanks for the reference, I am going to the library today to look at that article, I want to see the stones as they were in the 60's. After your and Joe's post about the stones the other day I have looked at the stones out of Dr. Glovers book and compared them to the picture's I took that ...

Knun,

Do you happen to know what issue that was in the 60's about the Peralta Stones?

rochha

Joe, I had a very enjoyable time meeting and discusiing the things we did at the museum saturday. I was hoping that I would meet you there, Knun it was nice to meet you as well. The guy who was showing us the stones after you guys left, I told him that I had actually been there twice to photograph t...

Mr. Glover and Peter:

Thanks for your response, what about the person who pretended to be Gasslers son Roland, and thoughts?

Rochha

Azmula, Forgot to ask you one thing, you say that the stone's were made by a jesuit preist who did not pass that informaton on to family, jesuit or pope because he did not have the opportunity to. Was he using a different code method than what they were using all along? Or did he tweak the existing ...

Joe, I did not mean to imply that all of them are gone, only that they were probably tampered with at one time or that some of them have been removed or something. I am sure there are almost all of them still there, but those that could have possibly been moved or tampered with could alter your fina...

Joe, Everyone assumes that what jacob waltz found is reffered to from the peralta stones or a jesuit treasure. It could just as easily been something worked before from someone else. He kills 3 people I think for it. A mine that allready had a exposed gold vein in it. What ever he found or killed fo...

Joe Your right then, I dont think the peralta stones has anything to do with the lost dutchman mine. I think they only indicate one mine and one mine only, a jesuit stash. I believe when they knew they were being expelled they hid alot of what they had mined and some church artifacts to as far north...

Mr. Glover, I have read your book and found it most interesting, when speaking of Walt Glassers death, Don Shade mentions on page's 240 and 242 that at first he did not recognize a mysterious fellow on a ridge, then he say's he does know who the person was. And that someday he was going to tell you ...

Hello,

I agree with you Joe, I do not think the peralta stones lead to the lost dutchman, but that they do lead to a jesuit treasure.

rochha

Joe, Yea that is about what they looked like, for me when I first saw them they were smaller than I had expected. The width of the stones is may 3 to 4 inches. Also each stone had it's own piece of wood they were housed in with some sort of coat hanger looking wire keeping them upright on each end o...

Joe, Notice I used the word " seem ". :lol: From what I remember the stones are no more than one foot and a half by one foot and a half, they are much smaller than one would think from the photo's. I did not take actual measurements but that is what I would guess. I dont ever remember seei...

Hello again, I was fortunate enought to handle the stones a few month's back and photograph them, I used a digital camera and took many close ups of the stones. There is a fang/tooth in the corner of the priests mouth, it is there. I have hesitated in responding back just yet because I figured if I ...

This question is for azmula, what does the fang in the priest's mouth that is holding the cross mean?

Thanks for your reply