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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:26 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: Cravey
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I do not beleive I can add anything new to the Cravey story. I am sure you have seen the same accounts that I have. He camped somewhere in Labarge, disappeared and his headless body showed up some months later just off the side of a trail under peculiar cir[beep]stances. <br> <br>Something interesti...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:26 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: Cravey
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Cravey
Ruth has been discussed into the ground (no pun intended) for 70 years. What about Cravey? I've seen very little about him except the same sketchy info over and over. Pretty gruesome stuff, and pretty obviously foul play. Anyone with any anecdotes or accounts?
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:25 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: e-mail adress
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:25 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: e-mail adress
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e-mail adress
Peter, <br> <br> I think we can discuss the info you would like to discuss on this forum. I just don't want to do it through e-mail. The only oxbow mountain that I have ever heard of is Coffee flat was called Oxbow in the early days. I have a feeling the one your refering to is Geronimo Head and Mal...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:24 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: oxbow
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:23 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: oxbow
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oxbow
the referal to a location or mtn that resembled an oxbow could have some importance in possibly the location of the dutchman or another mine does anyone have any feed on this?
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:22 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
- Replies: 13
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I've read them all too (except one I can't find), 95% are sheer entertainment. But that's my kind of entertainment! <br>I know exactly the area you're talking about. I've been there several times, never had a hint of trouble, but I'm VERY careful and mindful of what I do there. Never seen anyone els...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:22 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:21 pm
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- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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Hi Jim, <br> <br>Thats an interesting theory and one that is new to me. I do have a comment <br> though. Ruth did indeed <br>write a letter to his family in long hand from his camp in West Boulder canyon. This letter was found and given to Erwin Ruth, Adolphs son. I assume Erwin knew his fathers han...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:21 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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Yeah, but what motive would Gassler have for making up the Tex story? That doesn't make sense, it's not the sort of story you would make up about someone you thought highly of. <br>As for figuring things out on this site, I'd be very surprised if anyone came out and gave up their hard-won secret inf...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:21 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
- Replies: 13
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The discussion of Ruth is one of the great mysteries of the Dutchman story. It in it self is probaly responsible formaking the legend more renowned. As I said earlier, Tex Barkley ,I feel had nothing to do with his death. He also never packed the body anywhere. Researching further Ruth's body was se...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:20 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:20 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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if gasslers story was true about barkeley transporting ruths body to where it was eventually found. wouldnt that suggest that barkeley was the if not the actual murderer at least involved in the conspiracy(if there was one)it would be fortunate indeed if he just came upon ruths body by chance wouldn...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:19 pm
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- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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There are many aspects of Ruths murder that simply do not add up. For example...why was he killed? From what I can tell some one showing up at the QCU with a treasure map was not a terribly uncommon thing in those days. <br>Why murder someone for a map(s) that may or may not have been accurate? <br>...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:18 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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Keenan and Purnell's alibi of joyriding in Ruth's car always was pretty thin. It would not have taken long to shoot Ruth, and I have never seen anywhere how long it actually was until they returned from packing Ruth in. Walt Gassler pretty much said that Barkely told him that he had found Ruth's bod...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:18 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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thanks for all your replies.id just like to make a point about the suspects and the fact that some of said suspects were out of the area at the time. as far as im aware nobody can ascertain the date ruth was killed-only the dates when he went into mountains and when body was found which obviously is...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:16 pm
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- Topic: A Two Room House in a Cave
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A Two Room House in a Cave
The subject of rock houses and caves is a very interesting (though confusing)one. <br> <br>Several clues about the location of the mine center around a "two room rock house in a cave", a "rock house" a "caverna con casa" an additional "cave" up the ridge from ...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:15 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: red hills.
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I beleive Waltz entered the mountains from different directions to throw off what he perceived to be the ever present <br>treasure seekers that supposedly dogged his steps. I think that a case can be made for him entering the mountains <br>at Miners Needle Pass, Tortilla Creek and the Government Wel...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:15 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:14 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: red hills.
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red hills.
Great site. Nice info. Of course the three red hills are part of the story, but there are so many as Peter said, that which clues are true? If we only knew which way the Dutchman came into the mountains, would be valuable. I personally believe he entered from the south. The red hills north of Bluff ...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:14 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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On the murder of Adolph Ruth, Tex Barkley, was not involved with the murder. Peter is right about that. His murder was however planned at Barkleys ranch. Doug if you want to read about the murder, there is a new book which deals with the murder , called Crooked Mountain. It seems to be written as a ...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:13 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
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- Mon May 20, 2002 4:13 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: supposed killer of adolph ruth
- Replies: 13
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supposed killer of adolph ruth
hi all. just a question. im well aware that barry storms works are considered unreliable but none the less for that in *thunder gods gold*(an early edition) he accused a local small footed rancher of being the likely killer of ruth.according to the book a furore erupted in apache junction because of...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:12 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: Drei rot Hugels
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Drei rot Hugels
Hello folks, <br> <br>Just trying to stir the pot a bit here and see if we cant get a give/take discussion going. <br> <br>Pardon my German. "Drei rot Hugels" loosley translated means "three red hills". Waltz supposedly said "if you pass the three red hills you have gone too...
- Mon May 20, 2002 4:12 pm
- Forum: Old Forum Archive
- Topic: What mountain ?
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Hi Ron, <br> <br>If you could reply to the below email <br>I'd be happy to share some info. I am uncomfortable talking about it on a public forum. <br> <br>Thanks <br> <br>Peter <br>[email protected]