Lost Dutchman Goldmine

"djui5"]Let's not make fun of people with sierous illnesses ok Mike? OH JEEEEEZUS! Please tell me you weren't serious! I've been using that name for an ex-girlfriend for years! .....and besides, Sybill's 16 personalities was challenged several years ago, and I believe that they were mostl...

Why don't we just start calling everyone with multiple IDs Sybill? It was a great story about a poor girl with about 16 separate personalities. It came out in the mid seventies.

Best,

Mike

Very good questions Jim, We got a little dust from the ring itself (we panned it with our water), but there was no tailings pile, nor was there a waste pile. Can't say for certain, but it looks like everything was spread out all over the area. If you walk around the area, there is nothing but small ...

I have no idea how all the stones came to be there. Any trail the donkey would have made was under about a foot of dirt. About 2/3rd of the arrastra was buried. Many of the stones were out of place, or fallen over. The drag stone, and the stones under the drag stone were all in place.

Mike

I did notice that. Mine looks older. Ronnie's looks better constructed, but newer. Mine was also mostly buried, and many of the border rocks were fallen over.

Mike

Nice one as well!

We had to put ours back together some.

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Mike

First, That's not right out of Kenworthy's books. I would never use Kenworthy as a lone reference without checking other sources first! Kenworthy had a habit of not only leaving things deliberately out of his books, but he also had a penchant for exaggeration! Look at some of the photos in his books...

Mike, You guys certainly know a lot about Spanish markers. Where does one go to learn this stuff? I have a number of books, but most of them just repeat someone else's spill, and none of them have a historical basis. Is there any source, pre-1900s, that lays out this information? Why would the King...

"Ronnie Kelso"] Rocha: Just because you have a photo of a horese head, which by the way I believe to be a horses head Now were all getting somewhere! Someone actually says it's a horses head! Boy, that sure took a long time to hear! The Horses head is REAL and is part of the Peralta Stone...

="zentull"]It is unfortunate the thread got sidetracked, it was the only Stone Map thread that ever had my attention. It is interesting looking at how many authors seem luke warm towards them as well. Never did get my question answered though.............. Hey Z, Not sure which question y...

First, It doesn't matter to me whether someone has one or 50 aliases on here. I will say though, that your credibility does take a hit when you have several. Does it mean that your information is false? Not necessarily, but again, your credibility does take a hit. I have only ever had one identity, ...

Hey Havasu Heidi,

Glad you like the heart.

How do you figure the maps?

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Mike

In Robert E. Lee's 1974 video about the LDM, there is a scene where Ed Piper is showing an "Adobe Dollar" to a kid. Here is a Screen Shot (and it isn't Mexican Currency): http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8200/adobedollarae1.jpg Does this look familiar? http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/...

I'll show you one thing that has me obsessed here in California: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2334/heart2ajr4.jpg The biggest heart I have ever seen. It's about 50 feet tall and about 40 feet wide, carved into the bedrock on the side of a mountain. It's only visible through a low pass in a box...

Hey Joe, I'm so glad I don't live around there! I wouldn't be able to hold a straight job! :D :D :D Between what MIGHT be in the Supers, and what is definitely in the Tuscon-Nogales-Arivaca Triangle, I would be spending all my time in the desert! Distance is the only thing that keeps my obsessions t...

OK,

I know about adobe dollars from the early nineteen hundreds (Mexican Currency).

I have also heard of adobe dollars being a by-product of a type of smelting operation. Anybody got anything here?

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Mike

Hey Joe, It depends on what your definition of "Vested Interest" is. I know that somebody who wants to make money from books and tourists would NEVER want them declared fakes! BUUUUUUUUUT......somebody who has been researching them, and thinks them to be real, and a cache of gold or silver...

Hey Joe, I have gotten information that there have been at least 25 copies of the stones since the late eighties. Before that, who knows. Molds were made with latex from the originals (the stated originals in 1987). About 27 copies made from them, and the molds were sold to an artist in Laguna Beach...

Hey Roger, It's the story from Gene Davis (Robert Tumlinson's Landlord and LDM Partner) as told to him by Robert Tumlinson (Travis' Brother). It's in Glover's Book "The Lost Dutchman Mine of Jacob Waltz" Provided Travis Tumlinson was telling the truth, that's about as close to the horse's ...

Nobody knows just how long he had been friends with the Tumlinsons. Travis' health started to fail in about 1956, and couldn't go out to the Supers anymore. That's when he gave the stones and a map to where he found them to his brother (Robert Tumlinson). Robert was retired and living on a very smal...

Hey Roger, You got most of your facts completely wrong. Since this thing started on three separate forums, I have done more research into the stones than most humans. The name of the man who found the stones was Travis Tumlinson. The stones were ALL found on the same day, in the same hole. Travis Ma...

I agree that there are tons of possibilities, but even in your scenario, I couldn't see it. Pedro was supposed to have been one of the few survivors, and made it back to Sonora, only to move to Baja when all healed up. Nobody ever came back and got the stones. When would have been a good time to bur...

OK, not deep, but my logic is the same. If I were snake bitten, I don't think I would be thinking about digging anything. If I were in a fight with Apache, I wouldn't be thinking about digging anything (except maybe a foxhole to shoot from). If I had run out of water I MAY have taken the time to hid...

All possibilities, but I can't see anybody in any of the situations you gave that would (or could) take the time to dig a big deep hole, and bury the stones. I don't know if you've ever been in combat, but I have. I'll tell you, when things get hot and heavy, the last thing on my mind would be to hi...

Now, one more thing: Allowing the Tumlinson'e Story about finding the stones is true, the fact that all the stones were found in one place doesn't make much sense! Why, you ask? Here's why: If you were going to hide a cache/treasure, and made a set of stone maps to show the location and the routes t...