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by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:57 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Thanks senor x. <br> <br>I'll check my topo for Mineral Mtn in that location, but thats got to be it if you've seen it shown there. <br> <br>I have also heard that the Howland find by Cathedral was nothing but a scam and my recollection may be wrong, but I thought I heard that from Ron.
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:57 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

I'll have to tell ya Peter, I was kind of wondering for a while there. But coming from you I figured "this guy really knows his stuff - hey, maybe it did topple" :)
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:56 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

LOL <br> <br>I keep forgetting it is hard to denote sarcasm via the written word. <br> <br>I did not literally meant it collapsed...I meant "it collapsed in 1936".....yeah right! <br> <br>Sorry for the confusion. <br> <br>P
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:56 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Unless I'm reading it wrong, it was you, Peter(my respected source:), who said it "did indeed collapse" in the very first "reply" to this thread above.
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:55 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Well, here are a few more items I'd like to offer. <br> <br>The Peralta massarce as described by Ward I believe, like senor x, to be a composite of all massarce stories Ward read and were molded to fit his facination with sites on the south of the range. And, he thought there were many around there ...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:55 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

They could be. I do not know about Eight o' Spades Camp. But Bambi's Roost is on his map and basically where I described.
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:55 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Another place to see more on Bob Ward was on a show about the LDM shown on the Disovery Channel. He gets a lot of time on screen, and shows his Mexican milling area, how to line up markings to find treasure sites, and even a story about one of his wives being shot. I don't know what year this was fi...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:55 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Hello Fritski, <br> <br>I'd be most interested in knowing what this additional "respected source" is. <br>Nowhere have I come across any tales, anecdotes, folklore or legends that tell of Miners Needle collapsing in 1936....other than Wards account. <br> <br>The 1930s saw the Superstitions virtually...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:54 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

OK, that's what Ron said when I asked about Bambi's Roost and Eight o' Spades camp a few weeks ago. But I wasn't sure which one he was talking about. Maybe they're the same place?
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:53 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Thank you S.C. Very informative stuff. <br> <br>Another very respected source tells me that the 1936 earthquake did indeed topple the top of Miners Needle. My personal opinion leaves me a little leery about such an occurence, and when I next get the chance I was intending on making an on-site compar...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:51 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: directions to the ldm?
Replies: 2
Views: 6678

Are you referring to the written directions Ruth had in his notebook, that were copied from the P. C. Bicknell article of 1895 (over a lofty ridge, monumented trail, etc etc)? Brother, you could make those directions fit a lot of places in the Superstitions. There are a thousand deep, rocky tributar...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:50 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: directions to the ldm?
Replies: 2
Views: 6678

Hello Royston, <br> <br>I have almost a dozen clients in the UK...what part are you from? <br> <br>As to the Ruth Map(s). Adolph may have had between 1-4 maps with him in his search. Those maps may have applied to Arizona...or perhaps California. The more I have looked into the Ruth affair, the more...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:49 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: directions to the ldm?
Replies: 2
Views: 6678

directions to the ldm?

first of all id like to say ive never been to the superstitions.living as i do in the uk.i would just like to ask that if the directions on ruths map were followed where would it take you to? i.e and finally to tributuary caNYON very deep and rocky and densely wooded etc.
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:49 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Suggestion for webmaster
Replies: 1
Views: 5647

Hiker, <br> <br> That is a good a suggestion. The web master will see your comment. So I'll see if he can do something like that. It is very slow at that time for me, also. I think it is that time that the internet is so crowded. Maybe my web master can tell us something else, so Joe if you read thi...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:48 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Suggestion for webmaster
Replies: 1
Views: 5647

Suggestion for webmaster

Ron, <br>The LDM map section of this site allows you to comment on each map, which is neat. It would be great if there was some way to tell, while scrolling through the maps, which ones had comments attached. Maybe a little field giving the number of attached comments for each map, so you could see ...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:48 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Glenn Magill
Replies: 4
Views: 9083

Have enjoyed this site. I spent some time this past March and April reading Magill's account in Gentry"s book. I have looked closely at topo maps where Magill refers to. There are numerous mine workings in the area which I intend to explore. Not to find "The Mine" but just for fun.I made three trips...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:46 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Hiker, <br> <br>Bambi's Roost is up LaBarge Canyon, past Upper LaBarge Box on the East side of Picacho Butte/Coffee Flat Mtn. somewhere near - I believe - the LaBarge Springs No. 2 area and the Red Tanks Divide area - about half way between the two areas along the trail that goes through there. That...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:45 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

S.C., <br>Well, you certainly appeared on the scene all of a sudden as one of the people who evidently knows their stuff! I wonder who you are... Oh well, none of my business. <br>But I've always wondered about Bambi's Roost. Where does the Ward map show it to be? (And you're right about her being t...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:45 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

I think we should also remember that at the time he wrote the book, Ward was, I believe, dying of cancer and was heavily drugged. It wouldn't surprise me if a little imagination worked its way into his book. <br>I didn't know Ward - I am, once again, repeating things I have been told by people who k...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:45 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Bob Ward must have been an interesting character. The thing is, he absolutely believed what he wrote about. However, I think he took some leaps of imagination. Taking everything in his book with a grain of salt there are three things that stick out to me as being improbable and I suspect Ward actual...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:44 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

I knew Bob Ward pretty well. Peter is right about a fiction work; however Bob knew the mountains well, and it is a little shocking he turned out such a book. Although it is interesting that he mentions gold bars affiliated wih the Iron Mountain area, I can assure you it was not Ted Cox that he was r...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:44 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Thanks Peter. What I have read so far, I have highlighted and taken some notes trying to get a descent grasp of the subject through the hodge-podge of material. This is the first time, however, I decided I should try and use you guys and this forum to answer some of the questions that invariably ari...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:44 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Hi Fritzki, <br> <br>You seemed to have read Bob Ward (aka Val Paris)carefully. For myself, I am sure he found all the things he said he did, and I am sure Miners Needle did indeed collapse in 1936 (made it thru the quake of 1887 though it seems), but his book is in my "fiction" pile of LDM stuff (w...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:43 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe
Replies: 17
Views: 20101

Comments and Questions on Ward's "Ripples of Lost Echoe

I found this book odd and somewhat convoluted, but still interesting to read. I think the thing that struck me the most is how many locations of various missing treasures from gold crosses(pg.33) to paintings(pg.39) to mines(pg.35) that he knows of, but for one reason or another could never quite ma...
by count
Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:41 am
Forum: Old Forum Archive
Topic: Oral vs Written History
Replies: 3
Views: 6971

i dont think whether "history" is oral history or written history really matters.its where or from who it originates surely.anything that came directly or indirectly from sims ely and others -quite frankly id be loathe to believe a word of it. the same applies imho to indian legends most of which ha...