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by Scott
Thu May 01, 2003 10:43 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Daylight
Replies: 3
Views: 2708

Staying out during April

Several interlaced conditions kept me from the area in April.I just make up excusses to stay out during the month of April.I was told by a mentor some 25 plus years ago to stay out during this time of year.He was asked some 60 yrs ago to avoid the area,So I do,We all did. The reasons for this absenc...
by Scott
Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:39 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Move a family to Apache Junction?
Replies: 11
Views: 6185

Progressive ,non-denominational , conservative schooling ,will bring any April BBQ disscusion to the question,Whats that case of beer's "born on date"?
by Scott
Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:24 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Daylight
Replies: 3
Views: 2708

killers in the nite.

Killing the messenger is timeless Joe,Those words are among the first ever recorded. The Slayers attempt to gain creadence over those that have differing ideas by threating or discounting the messenger voice. That type of misdirection keeps the ideas going in one direction,Their direction.Hey I coul...
by Scott
Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:21 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Move a family to Apache Junction?
Replies: 11
Views: 6185

The Phoenix metro area is huge and spilling over west into Avondale,East into AJ and Pinal county,north past New River. The economy here is stable due to exploding growth. The laws here are enforced with sensibilty,carrying guns and C3 type are ok.The desert areas are being cleared for houses very f...
by Scott
Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:30 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Apache Presence
Replies: 18
Views: 9335

How was your "hike",Joe

The time was right for your trip,We have been out almost every week. The rains always expose the presents of man.I hope your journey was pleasant. We found a practice bomb fragment and targets from WW2.Several of the cactus markers are down. We noted attempts of them to obscure the signs of early ha...
by Scott
Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:56 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: STRANGE ENCOUNTER IN THE MOUNTAINS
Replies: 20
Views: 12508

A month ago there were two men riding in the back of a pick-up truck carrying guns. One appeared to be a pump shotgun .The other a rifle. They were following a fence line and looking past the fence.They had no idea we were there. They seemed to be poachers looking for game.It seems safe to poach nex...
by Scott
Tue Feb 04, 2003 10:37 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Spanish Mine Trail Markers
Replies: 2
Views: 2903

Hello Charlie, Welcome aboard.I must say ,you show a lot of balls by posting directions to your "area of intrest". I will try and answer some of your ?'s that I can. There were many trail and monument markers and prayer tablets that were destroyed thru the years.The large trail markers were defaced ...
by Scott
Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:00 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE BILBERY CROSSES
Replies: 21
Views: 13095

The Bilbry shaft?

Has anyone found the 20 ft shaft that was cleared after finding the crosses on top? I have never covered a shaft or backfilled a tunnel that was drilled and blasted from solid rock.I would assume the diggings would get larger and deeper over time.I would take a look and toss out a few feet of fill j...
by Scott
Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:33 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: What does the LDM gold look like?
Replies: 2
Views: 2750

What does the LDM gold look like?

I have read several descriptions of the ore that was found under Waltz bed. Some stories mention $11,000 in value,1/3 metal,gold set in quartz ect.. If I were to bring back some ore that was rich in color,Can this ore be determined to be from the same lode Waltz gold came from? Any Ideas on who We c...
by Scott
Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:57 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Three Saguaros Planted In A Row
Replies: 23
Views: 12075

The Spanish cactus markers that were shown to me are all down.These were off of Peralta trail and were seen as 3 or 5 lines that circled the top of the cactus.These cacti were very old and showing signs of decay. I was shown many markers on cactus.The Spanish were treated after being cut.This change...
by Scott
Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:23 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Three Saguaros Planted In A Row
Replies: 23
Views: 12075

connect the dots

Walker, The cactus markers took many different types. There are places that were used as "training " areas for cactus maps. I have followed many runs and checked the caches that were left.My impressions are these, The markers lead to supplies:water,shelter,food,family,supplies.These markers were mad...
by Scott
Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:52 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Three Saguaros Planted In A Row
Replies: 23
Views: 12075

The Spanish cactus markers I have seen were three rings and 5 rings that wrapped around the upper 3 feet of the uppermost central body of mature saguaro cacti. Suspect Spanish markers on cactus were daggers ,squares and slashes. These cacti can be easily transplanted,the main root system can sustain...
by Scott
Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:47 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Three Saguaros Planted In A Row
Replies: 23
Views: 12075

We went out to an area that we havent been to in 15-20 years Some of the cactus markers were down and all that was left were the ribs.Several were still there and did not seem to have grown much. The large old markers were down.I have not seen three in a row that are the same size.I have seen lots o...
by Scott
Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:52 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Why hasn't the LDM been found?
Replies: 28
Views: 18359

Joes ideas

I have thought that the ore lost at massacare area was removed and hidden in one of the caches. I think that there was so much emotion during the aftermath of the killings the Indians let their guards slack off and a unrelated person or survivor was able to follow the gold to a hidden cache.This cac...
by Scott
Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:26 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Why hasn't the LDM been found?
Replies: 28
Views: 18359

Joe, The Indians thru generations learned the value the miners and others placed on the gold and ores.They also knew the hardships that these Men caused the Indians.The Indians took the gold to prove to the strangers/miners that it is not worth the trouble to mine.And perhaps the miners will go else...
by Scott
Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:21 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Why hasn't the LDM been found?
Replies: 28
Views: 18359

What mine?

The gold ore that was brought out of LDM was likely not mined in the those mountains.The gold was a portion of a cache that was hidden there. The gold was hidden by Indians who aquired it by taking it from miners returning South.After years of stockpiling high grade ore the cache became to large for...
by Scott
Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:10 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Hidden mines uncovered.
Replies: 10
Views: 7882

Thanks Peter, We dont want to dig this area. I have some regard of the various laws and personal dangers involved.We would rather take an electronic look.The web is full of companies and products claims on abilities to see thru the ground. Does this procedure work in the "real" world of Arizona's mo...
by Scott
Wed Dec 25, 2002 11:17 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Vorteces?
Replies: 42
Views: 26528

There are several that we have found. One was found by running cactus markers .The other area was located by other dowsers. These areas move.Like magnetic lines of force. The dowsing instruments respond extremely.We ran several first time dowser thru the anonomly and were able to note changes in the...
by Scott
Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:18 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Hidden mines uncovered.
Replies: 10
Views: 7882

Hidden mines uncovered.

I am looking to gather information about the methods that were used to cover and hide mines in the Superstition area. I would assume several different ways to close or seal a mine.Would the Indians refill the whole tunnel? I have been shown a filled mine and am trying to determine how to excavate. D...