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by Potbelly Jim
Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Great Mine
Replies: 14
Views: 28094

Re: The Great Mine

cuzzinjack wrote: If you have another resource it would be greatly appreciated if you posted it. I tried Maricopa County on-line and no luck there. Jack, Scared up the old Gold King claim paperwork...that's not it...it was 1/2 mile from Sup. Mtn, and it looks like you are about 3 miles or so N of it...
by Potbelly Jim
Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:16 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

Ahhh...thanks Garry...I didn't make the connection between Bessie Barkley Lovelace and Bessie B. LOVELESS....for awhile there, when I was trying to figure out who she was, I thought it may have been Oren Arnold having a little fun...anyway I think you just answered my "million questions about t...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

Joe wrote: Guys, Actually Robert Blair was the first to associant Jacob Waltz with the Black Forest. "Tales of the Superstitions" Pages 29,30. What you will find is "Schwarzwold", German for Black Forest. Other than that, nice work. Take care, Joe It does indeed...nice catch, tha...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

I'm not sure about this, but I'm thinking the Black Forest thing may go back a bit farther than Helen C.... I'm going to try and attach a letter to the editor from 1938...I have a million questions about this lady...I've never heard of her...but she mentions where Waltz is from, and even the Danube....
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

Sorry, as usual, did not follow through on my thoughts....bottom line: I agree that Helen C. was the one that originally wrote about the Black Forest connection (and it sounds like she was just using it as a descriptive tool in her writing, to describe where Oberschwandorf was physically located)......
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:58 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

Oberschwandorf was always in Wurttemberg, as far as I can tell, and while technically can be described as being "in" or "on the edge of the Black Forest", H.C. does leave this out of the "Bible". Something interesting: Garry wrote: From the “Curse of the Dutchman’s Gold...
by Potbelly Jim
Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 39165

Re: Black Forest

Hi Thomas, Well, if there's any truth to the Black Forest story, it would be significant. That would mean Ol' Jake was probably from Baden, not Wurttemberg... While, possible, I doubt it...even though Wurttemberg appears to be misspelled on both the Natchez and CA citizenship docs, if they are authe...
by Potbelly Jim
Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Great Mine
Replies: 14
Views: 28094

Re: The Great Mine

Thanks Jack for that diagram...didn't know what you were talking about until you posted it... I remember hearing about a concrete shaft, but I think it was in a different place...have you done any research to see who had mining claims out there? I'm thinking the claims in 1887/1888 time-frame were a...
by Potbelly Jim
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Great Mine
Replies: 14
Views: 28094

Re: The Great Mine

Jack,

Outstanding work! I remember reading about the ox-cart tracks you posted some time ago, looks like your project is coming along nicely. Sometimes I lose track of the bigger picture as this info is posted across multiple threads...will check out your website to brush up...take care, Jim
by Potbelly Jim
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:59 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Hi Thomas, Thomas wrote: Adolph Ruth knew no more about the Lost Dutchman Mine, and probably less, than the readers of the forum do. Amen. For the rest of you, that is...he may have known more than me :lol: Since my last posts on this subject, thanks to Garry, I've learned the Ruth timeline I posted...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat May 19, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Ooops...meant to also point out that they would have taken the left fork at Bull Pass...if you take the right hand one, it goes up Bluff Springs Mtn...that's the wrong trail and won't lead to La Barge...anyway, the left fork is the way they went, as they were headed to La Barge and not Bluff Springs...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat May 19, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Garry, I knew what you meant...no worries... Keep in mind that Black Mesa trail has no relation to Black Top Mesa...Garden Valley lies between Hackberry and Black Mesa (not Black Top Mesa, which is a different mountain). So to get to Marsh Valley from Garden Valley, the shorter and easier way is to ...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat May 19, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Garry, I meant Mott, not Newcomer...sorry...Mott's article on 12 DEC (the first one submitted after they got back to PHX, titled "A Hound In Disgrace") described their finding of the skull off to the right of the trail, after Music started bellowing...the problem being, in Greg D's map and...
by Potbelly Jim
Fri May 18, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Don, I don't know much at all about the Cravey story...that being said, I would like to hear more if anyone here knows anything about it...as to why his death didn't attract as much attention as Ruth's...be careful what your wish for :P ...all we need is a new generation of "Barry Storm's"...
by Potbelly Jim
Fri May 18, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Hi Walker, My experience with buzzards has been about what you described. They are curious birds and I can get them to circle (they are just looking when they circle, as you know...they may not be looking to eat, just looking) with little effort. Like all animals, though, it all depends on circumsta...
by Potbelly Jim
Tue May 15, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Don, All, Looks like I was wrong about the location of Ruth's skull, or more accurately, the mountain behind it, in my earlier post. Paul posted some of Greg D.'s pics and map of the area on another site a while back, which I went back and looked at. After looking at Greg D.'s pics and map, it appea...
by Potbelly Jim
Thu May 10, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Don, To be fair, there are a million and five reasons why Ruth might have died a natural death, right there on Black Top Mesa, and nobody would have ever seen buzzards. If he got wedged in a crack high up, most likely not many animals can see or get to him, just small ones. So he might be wedged in ...
by Potbelly Jim
Thu May 10, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Hi Don, sorry for writing a book here…I can’t sleep, so I may as well get on here and bloviate… I have no opinion on whether the origin story of Ruth's Spanish map is true or false. I still say there’s nothing about the Ruth story that affects the existence of the LDM one way or the other. Maybe it ...
by Potbelly Jim
Tue May 08, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Don, Don wrote: ive never witnessed an execution by firing squad ,but i was under the impression that the firing squads target would be the heart,not the head . so why would he examine the skulls ? Agreed. It's only one of many problems I had with the statement. To be fair, it was made by Erwin Ruth...
by Potbelly Jim
Mon May 07, 2018 12:35 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Don, I think you mistook Jack's comments...He can speak for himself, but I read it to be a little good-natured sarcasm to respond to your statement: Don wrote: Though saying that barkley was described to me as having a psychophatic personality by a journalist on a pheonix publication a good few year...
by Potbelly Jim
Sun May 06, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Hi Don, Jack, Thanks for the link Jack, I and probably many others here will check it out. I like the work you’ve made available here so far! Regarding the Ruth story, we can’t solve it because the story as we know it can’t be true. First, I don’t care how tough he is, Adolph Ruth doesn’t make it ou...
by Potbelly Jim
Wed May 02, 2018 12:09 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Howdy Thomas, Hope all is well out there! Also, I hope you didn’t take my comment to Joe, (that people seem to have resented Hrdlicka held such a prestigious post) to mean you, or Don, or anyone else…I was referring to Joe’s observations about people during Hrdlicka’s time. The weather data from the...
by Potbelly Jim
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

One other thing...it looks to me like someone typed up first drafts of Hrdlicka's letters and responses...after which, it also appears to me that he proofread them and made changes to them. The changes show that whoever made the changes, I'm assuming it was Hrdlicka, had training in proofreading and...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Also, forgot to add, I also used as references the Halseth/Hrclicka correspondence provided by Garry. Joe, I think they're originally from your research at the Smithsonian? At any rate I forgot to add that to above post, thanks to you guys for sharing that info as well as Dr. Glover and Tom Kollenbo...
by Potbelly Jim
Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 738879

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Joe, I got that feeling too, like some people actually resented Hrdlicka having such a prestigious post. Having some personal confusion over the events taking place around the discovery of Ruth’s remains, who the people and organizations were, who did what when, etc…I put together a short timeline u...