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by Somehiker
Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:25 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)
Replies: 27
Views: 2820

Re: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)

I don't know cuzzinjack, as most of what I have read about the Apache and other natives has said that they believed it was mining and prospectors who were the ones defiling their holy places in mountain areas. This has also been in play during the controversy over the Oak Flat project. https://cronk...
by Somehiker
Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:47 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)
Replies: 27
Views: 2820

Re: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)

Some examples of Salado polychrome ollas from the Tonto Basin area.
http://www.rarepottery.info/protect/saladotonto.htm
by Somehiker
Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:31 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)
Replies: 27
Views: 2820

Re: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)

Another good writeup on the Salado.....https://www.cabrillo.edu/~crsmith/salado.html
by Somehiker
Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)
Replies: 27
Views: 2820

Re: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)

No, not by Aztecs, Jack. I was thinking it may have been others, but not likely the Apache, since their presence was not contemporary with any influence the Aztec could have had in the region. Hohokam perhaps, but more likely the Salado IMO. ......https://www.nps.gov/tont/learn/historyculture/salado...
by Somehiker
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)
Replies: 27
Views: 2820

Re: Ancient Goldfield Mine(s)

An old thread I know, but here is a link to a shot of the "aztec" calendar on the grounds of the Mormon temple in Mesa as mentioned by Emanon 2.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/10347442@N00/10719320926
by Somehiker
Sat May 06, 2017 5:09 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Chichilticale
Replies: 7
Views: 1022

Re: Chichilticale

Some interesting ideas there, Jack. I see surface and shallow pit mining of gold deposits by native people more or less local to the area as a distinct possibility, though not by the Aztec themselves. It is more likely IMO, that the gold was collected for trade purposes and exchanged for more desir...
by Somehiker
Sat May 06, 2017 5:00 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Chichilticale
Replies: 7
Views: 1022

Re: Chichilticale

Some interesting ideas there, Jack. I see surface and shallow pit mining of gold deposits by native people more or less local to the area as a distinct possibility, though not by the Aztec themselves. It is more likely IMO, that the gold was collected for trade purposes and exchanged for more desira...
by Somehiker
Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:04 am
Forum: Around the Campfire
Topic: Yellow Jackets
Replies: 1265
Views: 174182

Re: Yellow Jackets

Perhaps for a long time you folks have asked the wrong question about what our motive was. Originally it was to remove the library for its own safety. Now the library has been converted to data that we can turn on in a second and make available to all mankind. It is quickly becoming apparent our jo...
by Somehiker
Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:31 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

Less a gift than the product of a gifted person, whose childhood experiences growing up in a family with a history of treasure hunting, AND stone carving apparently, resulted in his having the imagination, tools, and motive required to pursue his hobby. The newer evidence makes it clear that the H/P...
by Somehiker
Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:43 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

"Souvenirs" = "Stones" IMO.
by Somehiker
Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:06 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

Thanks Gary, for a very nice reply as usual. As you say, while it may not be a "game changer" in the sense that he was trying to share his own experiences and ideas within the parameters of what he probably wanted to be a book about his "adventure" with the stones, it might give ...
by Somehiker
Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:00 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

I was going to post this image of the cover sheet of the Travis Tumlinson manuscript earlier in this thread but I felt it had gone so far off track that it wasn't worthwhile. I did provide an image to Ryan Gordon over on TNET, so it may also show up over there. It doesn't add to the discussion and ...
by Somehiker
Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:06 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

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by Somehiker
Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:05 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps
Replies: 335
Views: 63519

Re: Travis Tumlinson and the Stone Maps

Another to add to the collection of "stone maps".

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51 ... czre5v.png
by Somehiker
Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:57 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Cursum Perficio stone/paper
Replies: 1
Views: 2962

Re: The Cursum Perficio stone/paper

Probably because the answer is the same as your question..."the Cursum Perficio stone or paper has been brought up as an important element in understanding the PSM as well as being an important element in proving that the PSM are not fakes."

Regards:SH
by Somehiker
Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:26 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

Merry Christmas Donald And the same to Joe and Paul and everyone else who may be following this topic: You have to admit that Archaeologists have little interest in the study of old mining sites, at least those attributed to European exploitation. I don't know if that will ever change, since colonia...
by Somehiker
Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:11 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

Donald: Perhaps the connections you have in Archaeology can help unravel part of the story. Obviously, when it come down to a choice between hard cold cash and a chance to do the kind of work you have trained for, the "hat, vest and new truck" won out. At least for one official on the gove...
by Somehiker
Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:18 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

I would also say "bless their hearts, every one of them.
Not just for their perseverance and good fortune.
But also for giving the rest of us a "blueprint" of sorts, to follow if we should be so lucky ourselves. :mrgreen: :idea:

Regards:SH.
by Somehiker
Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:15 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

Mike: Other than what we both have been able to see, regarding the Pit mine and the Heat dig, and the brief exchange I had with the facebooker about the cache in Rogers Canyon, I have nothing more than my own reasoning to go on. I've been following both stories as they have evolved over the past 3 o...
by Somehiker
Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:17 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

Paul: Was there any sign of the use of heavy equipment at either location. Ruts or other damage to the surroundings ? Newer growth replacing older....etc. ? That's something hard to hide, even after a number of years has passed, and something the USFS would have immediately recognized IMHO. Looking ...
by Somehiker
Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:43 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 78126

Re: LOST OR.....FOUND?

Mike:

The problem I see in your idea is the well documented amount of work that was required to excavate and open the HEAT site. How long would it have taken, and how large a crew would have been needed to accomplish what you suggest ?

Regards:Wayne
by Somehiker
Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:12 pm
Forum: Superstition Mountain Journal
Topic: Superstition Mountain Journal Vol.11
Replies: 1
Views: 6579

Re: Superstition Mountain Journal Vol.11

Thanks for the update,Greg, and happy new year.
I'll be looking forward to getting hold of a copy.

Regards:Wayne
by Somehiker
Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:21 am
Forum: First Amendment Forum
Topic: Surely Obama will have something to say about this right?...
Replies: 12
Views: 7379

Re: Surely Obama will have something to say about this right

The question of a presidential candidate's eligibility for office, based on birthplace, is nothing new. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html Then again "birtherism" seems to be a popular topic in some circles, even to the extent of asking ......
by Somehiker
Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:43 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Lucille and Floyd Stone Correspondence with Bernice McGee
Replies: 1
Views: 1396

Re: Lucille and Floyd Stone Correspondence with Bernice McGe

Will do Gary. :D
Thanks.

Regards:SH.
by Somehiker
Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:03 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Almost buried alive
Replies: 17
Views: 5654

Re: Almost buried alive

Not just for Marie Celeste Jones !
Ted DeGrazia and others as well.

http://www.desertusa.com/mb3/viewtopic. ... 9&start=20

Alan contributed to the discussion as well.
Something about crackers :lol:

Regards:SH.