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- Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:58 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: cravey /ruth
- Replies: 19
- Views: 55135
Re: cravey /ruth
Don, I'll share my opinion, but opinions are like navels, everybody has one. I'm the poster boy for ignoring the Cravey Story and researching the Adolph Ruth Story. Cravey was following a dream (or so they say) and Adolph was following a Genuine SPANISH map and was MURDERED for it. If anything makes...
- Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:44 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: cravey /ruth
- Replies: 19
- Views: 55135
Re: cravey /ruth
Don, You may have already seen this but by far the most detailed account of the Cravey story I have seen is from the Kollenborn Chronicles. No Mystery though! http://superstitionmountaintomkollenborn.blogspot.com/2016/02/craveys-dream.html BTW, What is your provenance for "craveys decapitated h...
- Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:03 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Jim Bark and the Deering/Chuning Timeline
- Replies: 96
- Views: 213846
Re: Jim Bark and the Deering/Chuning Timeline
Was just browsing some old files on my computer and ran across Kevin Nunemacher’s story about a Hike in 2007 to John Chuning’s Lost Dutchman Mine near the Paint Mine. I’m not sure where this story was originally shared but I don’t believe it was on this site. This particular thread has a lengthy dis...
- Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:17 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Another Dutch Hunter Crosses Over
- Replies: 69
- Views: 211334
Re: Another Dutch Hunter Crosses Over
Thomas, Thanks for documenting the Hamrick story. We were in Prescott visiting with you on March 30 and you shared many of Jerry's stories. Little did we know that he would pass away the next day. We wish you could have seen Jerry one last time before his passing. We could tell that you held him in ...
- Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:33 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Massacure
- Replies: 61
- Views: 255328
Re: Massacre
Jim, You wrote: I've done a lot of looking and thinking on this...I do believe that the Apache Jack/George Scholey story by Bark is the first detailed reference to a Peralta massacre that I personally have seen...take that with the caveat that my library and/or knowledge of this subject is probably ...
- Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Massacure
- Replies: 61
- Views: 255328
- Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:07 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Massacure
- Replies: 61
- Views: 255328
Re: Massacre
When I read the above story from the Philadelphia Times I thought I recognized some of the elements not included in the Bicknell 1895 article. I wondered how an eastern writer knew the stories of the LDM. The Newspaper article below was shared with me by Steve Creager many years ago. It was written ...
- Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:47 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Rendezvous
- Replies: 10
- Views: 52804
Re: Rendezvous
Thomas, Very interesting post. I'm still digesting it but I did have a question. You wrote; The account of Cos. E and F being on a march to Ft. Whipple checks out. Captain Washburn was the ranking officer, and thus he was in charge of the march. This it turns out is important. Capt. Thus, both his C...
- Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:31 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Black Forest
- Replies: 20
- Views: 57457
Re: Black Forest
Guys , Several years ago, Carol and I worked with the Robert Blair Collection. It was located in the Hayden Library at ASU on the 4th? floor in the Arizona Historical Foundation Room. The Luhrs Room which has a lot of Hayden's papers was next door. In 2012 The Foundation closed it's doors and the Bl...
- Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:12 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Black Forest
- Replies: 20
- Views: 57457
Re: Black Forest
Jim, I have no idea where Lovelace got her information about Jacob’s ancestry. It would be interesting to know. She was a local around Phoenix and according to what I have read had a run-in with Barry Storm when she accused him of stealing her research. She wrote under the pen name of Leland Lovelac...
- Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:11 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Black Forest
- Replies: 20
- Views: 57457
Re: Black Forest
Thomas, I did find a reference to the Black Forest in Helen’s first book, “The Curse of the Dutchman’s Gold”, published in 1990, Page 35 and 36. Bob and Helen were on a trip to Germany, doing research on the ancestry of Jacob Waltz? Is this trip, perhaps the reference you found in Helen’s research w...
- Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:59 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Black Forest
- Replies: 20
- Views: 57457
Re: Black Forest
Thomas,
Say it ain't so!
The only thing I can come up with is the figure in your book on page 112.
I was prepared to bet a lot of money that you have the ancestry of Jacob Waltz pegged with your recent research!
Have you run across something that causes you to question that?
Garry
Say it ain't so!
The only thing I can come up with is the figure in your book on page 112.
I was prepared to bet a lot of money that you have the ancestry of Jacob Waltz pegged with your recent research!
Have you run across something that causes you to question that?
Garry
- Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:48 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Michael Bilbrey
- Replies: 18
- Views: 53522
Re: Michael Bilbrey
Joe, I am trying to find the Greg Davis’s story about Bilbrey trying to sell the Latin Crosses. I believe it was on one of the forums but I spent a couple of hours trying to run it down and came up empty. (From Memory) Greg met with Estee Conatser, Bilbrey and possibly Ed Farr and he was trying to s...
- Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:23 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Thomas, A nicely documented post regarding Adolph Ruth’s scrapbook and correspondence. I believe you are likely correct that the Ben Sublett Lost mine is what he was searching for in the scrap of correspondence that survived. According to the Ralph Brown newspaper article Adolph became interested 40...
- Sat May 19, 2018 1:22 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Again I have my directions screwed up.
Garry
I meant Needle Canyon crosses the Bull Pass trail west of that intersection?Needle Canyon crosses the Bull Pass trail east of that intersection?
Garry
- Sat May 19, 2018 1:15 pm
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Jim, I see what you are talking about. I'm looking at a map and I always believed they were traveling the trail over Bull Pass. It looks like it it is about a mile shorter to go that way than around Balck Top Mesa (1.5 miles vs 2.6 miles). It also look to me, at least on a low resoution, modern day ...
- Sat May 19, 2018 10:47 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
I sure didn't improve our understanding with my confusing post.
I meant west to east (Garden Valley toward Charlebois Spring)
Sorry about that,
Garry
I meant west to east (Garden Valley toward Charlebois Spring)
Sorry about that,
Garry
- Sat May 19, 2018 4:16 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Also, I didn't know that Newcomer took the pic the following day while they were backtracking...might explain why he said the skull was off the trail to the right... Jim, I got the "impression" it was the following day so it may not rise to the level of fact. I'm sure they stopped at the ...
- Sat May 19, 2018 4:00 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM
- Replies: 12
- Views: 22718
Re: Bicknell's SF Chronicle 1895 Article
This information was also on the LDM Documents Roots Web site. I have transcribed it and apologize for any errors. If someone has a subscription to newspapers.com they can view the actual image of the article. The red text can be found in the Ralph O. Brown article word for word except for a few min...
- Fri May 18, 2018 9:58 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM
- Replies: 12
- Views: 22718
Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM
I wanted to share some accounts that relate to the note found among Adolph’s remains. I hope that we can establish a few facts and background for the provenance of the note. From a very crude analysis we can tell from the various version of Adolph’s note that it is related to the P. C. Bicknell arti...
- Wed May 16, 2018 6:28 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Jim, It’s been a few years since I have reviewed the Adolph Ruth story in depth. There has been a gremlin in my files and although I’m pretty sure about what I’m looking for, it seems to have disappeared. The Newcomer photo of the location of the discovery of Adolph’s skull and Greg’s study is somew...
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:24 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Damn those pesky details! :) Rereading the passage; “skulls with bullet holes found on battlefields”, I suddenly realized. I have been entertaining a. bad assumption from the beginning. I had always assumed that Dr. Hrdlicka was serving in some capacity during World War I and was physically present ...
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:22 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Thomas I have a question regarding the missing plate and silver dollars. IF they were removed from the remains of Adolph at the same time, it seems they were removed after the animals and elements had a chance to work their magic and expose the plate. This would identify the perpetrators as the indi...
- Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:35 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Jim, We are presently traveling and I have all of my research on a desktop at home. I'm using my wife's laptop and i didn't think I had the Hrdlicka info with me but I checked a back up disc we had with our things and walla! I will e-mail you a PDF file if you will pm your e-mail address. We were in...
- Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:52 am
- Forum: LDM Discussions
- Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
- Replies: 129
- Views: 1046748
Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Jim and Thomas, In my opinion, if there is one element of the Ruth story that has been neglected, it is the skull forensics angle. You guy are exploring largely unplowed virgin ground. There is a lot of forensics information on the internet now that wasn’t available in the past. All we really have t...