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by novice
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Jim Bark and the Deering/Chuning Timeline
Replies: 96
Views: 79577

Re: Jim Bark and the Deering/Chuning Timeline

Was just browsing some old files on my computer and ran across Kevin Nunemacher’s story about a Hike in 2007 to John Chuning’s Lost Dutchman Mine near the Paint Mine. I’m not sure where this story was originally shared but I don’t believe it was on this site. This particular thread has a lengthy dis...
by novice
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Another Dutch Hunter Crosses Over
Replies: 69
Views: 74180

Re: Another Dutch Hunter Crosses Over

Thomas, Thanks for documenting the Hamrick story. We were in Prescott visiting with you on March 30 and you shared many of Jerry's stories. Little did we know that he would pass away the next day. We wish you could have seen Jerry one last time before his passing. We could tell that you held him in ...
by novice
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Massacure
Replies: 61
Views: 30920

Re: Massacre

Jim, You wrote: I've done a lot of looking and thinking on this...I do believe that the Apache Jack/George Scholey story by Bark is the first detailed reference to a Peralta massacre that I personally have seen...take that with the caveat that my library and/or knowledge of this subject is probably ...
by novice
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Massacure
Replies: 61
Views: 30920

Re: Massacre

28 Sep 1902 Prescott Miner Weeden-Waltz Story -4.JPG
28 Sep 1902 Prescott Miner Weeden-Waltz Story -5.JPG
by novice
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Massacure
Replies: 61
Views: 30920

Re: Massacre

When I read the above story from the Philadelphia Times I thought I recognized some of the elements not included in the Bicknell 1895 article. I wondered how an eastern writer knew the stories of the LDM. The Newspaper article below was shared with me by Steve Creager many years ago. It was written ...
by novice
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:47 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Rendezvous
Replies: 10
Views: 7553

Re: Rendezvous

Thomas, Very interesting post. I'm still digesting it but I did have a question. You wrote; The account of Cos. E and F being on a march to Ft. Whipple checks out. Captain Washburn was the ranking officer, and thus he was in charge of the march. This it turns out is important. Capt. Thus, both his C...
by novice
Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 11222

Re: Black Forest

Guys , Several years ago, Carol and I worked with the Robert Blair Collection. It was located in the Hayden Library at ASU on the 4th? floor in the Arizona Historical Foundation Room. The Luhrs Room which has a lot of Hayden's papers was next door. In 2012 The Foundation closed it's doors and the Bl...
by novice
Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 11222

Re: Black Forest

Jim, I have no idea where Lovelace got her information about Jacob’s ancestry. It would be interesting to know. She was a local around Phoenix and according to what I have read had a run-in with Barry Storm when she accused him of stealing her research. She wrote under the pen name of Leland Lovelac...
by novice
Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 11222

Re: Black Forest

Thomas, I did find a reference to the Black Forest in Helen’s first book, “The Curse of the Dutchman’s Gold”, published in 1990, Page 35 and 36. Bob and Helen were on a trip to Germany, doing research on the ancestry of Jacob Waltz? Is this trip, perhaps the reference you found in Helen’s research w...
by novice
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Black Forest
Replies: 20
Views: 11222

Re: Black Forest

Thomas,

Say it ain't so!

The only thing I can come up with is the figure in your book on page 112.

I was prepared to bet a lot of money that you have the ancestry of Jacob Waltz pegged with your recent research! 8O

Have you run across something that causes you to question that? :)

Garry
by novice
Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Michael Bilbrey
Replies: 18
Views: 16558

Re: Michael Bilbrey

Joe, I am trying to find the Greg Davis’s story about Bilbrey trying to sell the Latin Crosses. I believe it was on one of the forums but I spent a couple of hours trying to run it down and came up empty. (From Memory) Greg met with Estee Conatser, Bilbrey and possibly Ed Farr and he was trying to s...
by novice
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Thomas, A nicely documented post regarding Adolph Ruth’s scrapbook and correspondence. I believe you are likely correct that the Ben Sublett Lost mine is what he was searching for in the scrap of correspondence that survived. According to the Ralph Brown newspaper article Adolph became interested 40...
by novice
Sat May 19, 2018 1:22 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Again I have my directions screwed up.
Needle Canyon crosses the Bull Pass trail east of that intersection?
I meant Needle Canyon crosses the Bull Pass trail west of that intersection?

Garry
by novice
Sat May 19, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Jim, I see what you are talking about. I'm looking at a map and I always believed they were traveling the trail over Bull Pass. It looks like it it is about a mile shorter to go that way than around Balck Top Mesa (1.5 miles vs 2.6 miles). It also look to me, at least on a low resoution, modern day ...
by novice
Sat May 19, 2018 10:47 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

I sure didn't improve our understanding with my confusing post.

I meant west to east (Garden Valley toward Charlebois Spring)

Sorry about that,

Garry
by novice
Sat May 19, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Also, I didn't know that Newcomer took the pic the following day while they were backtracking...might explain why he said the skull was off the trail to the right... Jim, I got the "impression" it was the following day so it may not rise to the level of fact. I'm sure they stopped at the location o...
by novice
Sat May 19, 2018 4:00 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM
Replies: 12
Views: 9712

Re: Bicknell's SF Chronicle 1895 Article

This information was also on the LDM Documents Roots Web site. I have transcribed it and apologize for any errors. If someone has a subscription to newspapers.com they can view the actual image of the article. The red text can be found in the Ralph O. Brown article word for word except for a few min...
by novice
Fri May 18, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM
Replies: 12
Views: 9712

Adolph’s Ruth’s Directions to the LDM

I wanted to share some accounts that relate to the note found among Adolph’s remains. I hope that we can establish a few facts and background for the provenance of the note. From a very crude analysis we can tell from the various version of Adolph’s note that it is related to the P. C. Bicknell arti...
by novice
Wed May 16, 2018 6:28 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Jim, It’s been a few years since I have reviewed the Adolph Ruth story in depth. There has been a gremlin in my files and although I’m pretty sure about what I’m looking for, it seems to have disappeared. The Newcomer photo of the location of the discovery of Adolph’s skull and Greg’s study is somew...
by novice
Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:24 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Damn those pesky details! :) Rereading the passage; “skulls with bullet holes found on battlefields”, I suddenly realized. I have been entertaining a. bad assumption from the beginning. I had always assumed that Dr. Hrdlicka was serving in some capacity during World War I and was physically present ...
by novice
Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:22 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Thomas I have a question regarding the missing plate and silver dollars. IF they were removed from the remains of Adolph at the same time, it seems they were removed after the animals and elements had a chance to work their magic and expose the plate. This would identify the perpetrators as the indi...
by novice
Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:35 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Jim, We are presently traveling and I have all of my research on a desktop at home. I'm using my wife's laptop and i didn't think I had the Hrdlicka info with me but I checked a back up disc we had with our things and walla! I will e-mail you a PDF file if you will pm your e-mail address. We were in...
by novice
Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Jim and Thomas, In my opinion, if there is one element of the Ruth story that has been neglected, it is the skull forensics angle. You guy are exploring largely unplowed virgin ground. There is a lot of forensics information on the internet now that wasn’t available in the past. All we really have t...
by novice
Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

Jim, The Hrdlicka File is also an important source in trying to understand the Adolph Ruth story. This is from memory but Joe will know the details of the file background. I believe Tom Kollenborn ran parts of it down in the 80s and Joe was in contact with the Smithsonian in the last 10 or so years ...
by novice
Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains
Replies: 129
Views: 91620

Re: The Legend of the Superstition Mountains

I’ve been hesitant to add much to the Ruth Story since the sources of my information are not presently available on the web site. All to the newspaper accounts from May to January were on the web site. These are at least contemporary accounts and the officials were not hesitant to disclose detail in...