Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Laz

His conduct is also illegal. You should consider contacting the authorities.

P

Woodreau,

One more thing. If you can obtain back issues of the SMHS Journals, there is a wealth of information within the pages.


I beleive you can order back issues from the SMHS directly at:

http://www.superstitionmountainmuseum.org/

Woodreau, Besides Corbins stuff you might want to try the following authors: Dr Thomas Glover Robert Sikorsky Estee Conatser Sims Ely Barry Storm Oren Arnold That pretty much runs the gamut from the solid histories to the innane, but will give you a good idea of the history and legend of the LDM. To...

Off-topic here.

Any of you folks own, work for or know someone in the printing business?
Am looking for someone to establish a business relationship with in the East Mesa/AJ area. Need work done.

Peter

You/they can email me at [email protected]

>>Do you call or email each other before issuing these pearls of wisdom?<< Nah, we just use the mountain telegraph. Kidding aside, how many folks saw that storm last night? We got plastered here in SE Mesa. Saw it way off about an hour and a half before it struck here. Looked like the northern end o...

How funny are these posts??

>>Wait... did you say that, or was it me?<<

Caw caw...oops wrong venue......

>>Hee hee! He thinks we're the same person!<<

He's not alone. But as I have pointed out to some folks in the past..that just aint so...

>>Jow; I think peter and the Wiz are just like the 2 old crows sitting on the fence we used to see in the comic books.. one says HAW and the other says CAW.<< Just goes to show you that the folks who say that given word processors and a million years even a chimp will pound out Shakespeare are corre...

>>Wow! You're good!<< Dam right I am. SC: Good post and logic on the Reed thing. Bill: Interesting tidbit about mineralized timbers. Thats, of course if 1) there were any timbers to begin with and 2) were the timbers dug up after Waltz placed them? PS I would be interested in the origination of the ...

>>How goes the new house? You are now getting a taste of how varied the weather can be in the Phoenix area.<<

House is getting there little by little. I thought summers in AZ were HOT.
NY summers (with their humidity) are a whole lot worse than this...

Hmmmmmm....does this little spat between Bill and "jow" mean "ded" will soon make an appearence? Lets stay tuned.....

Joe Interesting connection there. Bill >>First off I have never lowered myself to reading the holmes crap. << Why not? And why would you need to "lower" yourself to read it? I have read every scrap of info I can get on every aspect of the LDM. Whatever you might think of the Holmes', I bel...

Not sure on the "Jr" thing. Will check my stuff and see what I can come up with.

Joe Just because I mentioned John Reed or his family ties doesnt mean I wish to discuss him at length on a public forum. I am of course, aware of the "facts" of Waltzs alleged illness and the Starrar connection. While I agree one has to look at the historical facts, one has to also keep in...

Bill I am not quite sure what you were blathering on about, but I am sure it was something interesting. Joe 1) I believe Reed had some VERY interesting family connections..but they did not involve Jim Bark. This is not my tale to tell, nor do I believe it should be told on a public forum. Guess we w...

Bill I imagine Waltz would have packed a beartrap (if indeed that is what he used) in with him on one of his burros. I do not believe he "found" the beartrap in the Superstitions, but who knows maybe he did! I did not mean I had definitive information on the direction that the logs were la...

The classic story of Waltz covering his mine is as follows: 1) He widens the top of his shaft down to a couple of feet in order to lay logs across it. Imagine a penny being widened to the size of a quarter. The extra room around the edges are for log placement. 2) He lays one layer of logs north-sou...

Then again, you have several accounts of people uncovering the mine AFTER Waltz covered it over (John Reed comes to mind here). Question is, did they RE-cover it or just leave it lie after they were done? My information has Waltz setting up a beartrap at the bottom of the shaft. (Then again, I have ...

Joe

One of my goals in life is NOT to be tied over any anthills...

Wiz

One of them suckers makes it to one of my camps and I would be surprised....

Knun

Dont wear underwear, much to my camping partner(s) dismay. Tho they are use to my little foibles by now...i hope.

Just an interesting little story. I have begun my mountain "training" for the upcoming season. Tramped up to the Fremont Saddle and eyeballed the Needle and tramped back down. On my way back as I approached the old turn off for the Barkley Ranch, I noticed a funny looking "horse"...

Oops. My mistake. I'd like to plead senility like Joe does when he trips up, but I am not in the "senior" class yet...so I guess I will just blame it on stupidity.

P

Knun, Sims Ely mislabled or misplaced several landmarks in his book purposely. Among them the "horse" country, the "soldiers" camp etc. He also misnamed some mountains. Joe There are a couple of stories about the fate of Deerings Willow. One is that Bark cut it down. Another is t...

>>Sims Ely used the "three feet in width" phrase, to describe one of "two routes out of the horse country". It was there contention that the trails were used to haul timber to the mine. That trail "leads northward from the soldier camp and down a steep declivity to the base ...

Joe, Actually I was poking fun at the Stone Maps, attempting to show that no matter how many views on the forum it doesnt make them any more relevant to the LDM than they already are (which as you well know...is not at all). Bill Yes my wife is always scolding me about my attire (or lack thereof)dur...