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by azmula
Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:31 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

Garry, May I suggest you read the Jesuit articles on gollum’s website www.1oro1.com if you haven’t already visited the site and you might even like to check his reference sources. The articles are very detailed and well documented. The following is my opinion of the maps’ origination. You may also w...
by azmula
Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:57 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

Garry, I would like to give you some additional thoughts on Jesuits and map symbols. It is an accepted fact that Jesuits were the finest educated individuals of the time. They had no need of Spanish symbols in their map making unless they wanted the Spanish to follow their map to the treasure caches...
by azmula
Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:40 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, I commend Garry on his historical data gathering. I am still trying to read it in detail. There are some similarities in our findings and differences. I would expect that when you interview different people. As we all are aware of is that we are expected to find what we want to accept as accurat...
by azmula
Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:02 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, Azmula: Do any of the other e-mails, or answers to your questions from the list ,shed further light upon the evidence posted by Gary on his website ? YES??? Specifically the questions relating to the total number of stones.Three stones/four stones/and the other fifth stone sought by Richard Peck...
by azmula
Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:50 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

All,
Just a note: I never said that the three emails in the article were the only emails I received. I am still in touch with the family. Or that I never sent a list of questions to the Family similar to the list of questions generated here.

azmula
by azmula
Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:43 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, The stone was cut from a bluff on the edge of Arizpe, along the Rio Sonora. The floor has been replaced at least twice 1800's and ~1963 when De Anza's grave was discovered. There are several graves in the church all wealthy local people from the early years, 1750's to 1800's. There is a map of t...
by azmula
Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:25 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH,

The photos they saw was the set used in the SMHS Journal article. I took these photos at the museum, in the daylight, outside, June 27,2007.

I believe that answers your question.

azmula
by azmula
Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:36 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, I agree with you about the effects of light sources and background on photos. The photos in my article were taken outside of the Museum in normal sun light with a film camera and later digitized (no photo shopping), while the backgrounds were neutral. The best photos that I have seen were taken ...
by azmula
Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:25 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

I have copied and pasted those passages from the e-mails which, to me at least, indicate that the relatives you corresponded with remember Travis working on more than one stone map. That they are talking about at least the three map stones seems obvious. I interpreted “maps” in the emails as all thr...
by azmula
Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:30 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH,
I don't mind your quotes if you do not mind my non-responses where applicable...

Take care, azmula
by azmula
Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:02 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

Hello SH, Thank you for the question. If you read all of the emails you would interpret the facts as only the cream colored stone being seen carved by Travis. Travis liked using images like the horse and priest which have little to do with where the stone maps lead (personal opinion). Check the chim...
by azmula
Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:12 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, When the Bourbon Kings took the thrones of Portugal, France, and Spain began the Expulsion of the Expulsion of the Jesuits from their lands. The Expulsion orders were signed by the sitting monarch of each country. They brought pressure on the sitting pope to dissolve the Jesuit Order. He resiste...
by azmula
Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:05 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH, I agree with your statement that the Jesuits were overstepping their mandate from the Spanish crown. The Jesuits took their direction from the pope first and the King of Spain second. They did as their pope ordered only. The Jesuits were not always popular with the local land and mine owners sin...
by azmula
Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:30 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH,

It is your privilege to disagree with the people who watched Travis carving the H/P maps. I agree with your “corrupt group” theory, except I believe the Jesuits were only doing what they were told to do by the Catholic Church popes of the period.

azmula
by azmula
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:49 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

SH,
Thank you for your comments and question.

I believe that there is no trail identified on the maps but there is a location where all of the gold, silver, and church vestments were cached prior to the Expulsion in 1767.

Take care,
azmula
by azmula
Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:52 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

Re: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

Does anyone want to discuss the stone maps with questions or comments?

azmula
by azmula
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:22 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: THE GENUINE STONE MAPS
Replies: 149
Views: 230517

THE GENUINE STONE MAPS

All, I am azmula. That is the only name I publish openly because my name is my business and is not necessary to qualify the accuracy of my articles or posts. I don’t care whether you believe my comments or not. A note about my character, I do not lie, I do not make comments that I cannot back up and...
by azmula
Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:27 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: The Stone Maps
Replies: 922
Views: 832813

Re: The Stone Maps

All, I would just like to suggest that everyone interested in the article look at the facts and the email dates. Don’t worry about my name as it is much less important than the facts presented. My name does not make the facts more accurate. My long awaited book’s long delivery is compliments of the ...
by azmula
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:20 pm
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Roberts Family
Replies: 6
Views: 7933

Roberts Family

I've seen answers to those questions here in this forum. There is one individual who has all the Roberts Family History and can respond accurately.

azmula
by azmula
Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:37 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: A Stone Map Update
Replies: 3
Views: 6442

A Stone Map Update

In case there are any stone map believers still out there who follow the "realities" of the stone maps, may I suggest that you get a copy of the 2010 SMHS Journal. There will be an article discussing recent findings of who created the maps and when. This is based on primary research which ...
by azmula
Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:03 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: LOST OR.....FOUND?
Replies: 302
Views: 407162

Spanish Roads Do Exist

Two parts of the Cox directions sure struck me as highly supect. "The crumbling abutments of two long-vanquished bridges are passed". Anybody seen any bridge remains or even a crossing where it would make sense to have built a bridge, let alone two of them? "Then the canyon widens ou...
by azmula
Thu May 31, 2007 8:22 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: new blood needed?
Replies: 17
Views: 14206

Don,
I rest my case...

azmula
by azmula
Thu May 31, 2007 7:39 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: new blood needed?
Replies: 17
Views: 14206

Don, It seems that posting tends to slow down during the summer time due to many reasons. Many of us have to deal with personal issues which require a great deal of time which negates posting. Then there are a few us that are just sick of negative attacks by individuals who for what ever reason have...
by azmula
Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:04 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Where you go into the range
Replies: 40
Views: 36969

Apache Vengance With Cause

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by azmula
Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:55 am
Forum: LDM Discussions
Topic: Adolph Ruth, the mystery.
Replies: 355
Views: 364834

Five Cacti

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